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| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 787 Registered: 11-2005 |
Gilbert Jorgensen It has been 162 Years, 10 Months, and 22 Days since October 22, 1844 | ||
| Randyg Registered user Username: Randyg Post Number: 459 Registered: 12-2004 |
Gilbert, again what more is there to be said. This is what we all were taught as divine revelation. I have to ask, where oh where do we find all these details in Scripture. This all comes from a very disturbed mind. If Ellen White was alive today......would Adventists give her the time of day making all these pronouncements......not on your life. And yet by continuing to promote her that is in effect is what is happening. All of these quotes that you have shared in your series on "Exposing Adventism", whether it is about exposing ankles, or the overheating of the blood, animal passions due to wigs, or the effects of tightly braided hair,.......all of these things would get her dismissed as a lunatic if she stood up in church and made these statements. I am absolutely confounded that the SDA church continues to try and give credibility to this utter nonsense. I am so sick and tired of the excuses put forth by those that say she was misunderstood, or she was just a product of her times. What I find so inexcusable is that she continues to be promoted as "More Than a Prophet", and a continuing and authoritative SOURCE of truth. I find this to be a fraud perpetuated on a gullible people all in the name of religion, and to save face by not admitting that 14,000,000 people have been duped. And that Schools of Theology have for over 100 years made it their life's work to try have reconcile her theology with that of Scripture. There is to much pride, and to much money at stake for the denomination as a whole to say we were wrong. The Church as we know it would splinter into 100 pieces if they ever told the true about Ellen White. It doesn't matter whether some of her writings have some uplifting value or not. She was a controller and an egomaniac. I have been tempted to post on several of your other Ellen White quotations.......but they speak for themselves. I unfortunately know that even this post will be seen as condemning and spiteful by some. But looking at the quotes presented, and I know they are just the tip of the iceberg, I really have to hold all the GC administrations past and present, accountable for the continuation of this fraud. How in the world can they not see the problems in this. My only conclusion is that they do, and they know, and they continue to collude. All I can say is may God help them. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 1454 Registered: 9-2006  |
Those red books come very much into play in the lives of the Adventist I know, they read them for inspiration, if you know Adventist that do not know what Ellen White wrote then I can tell you this much, you don't know the Adventist I know. River | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6790 Registered: 12-2003  |
Randy, so well said. They KNOW, and they continue to collude. You are completely right; if they repented and renounced Ellen, the church would cease to exist. There would go the leaders' monetary and political connections and the power plays done in circles most of us only hear of but never experience. And River, you are 100% right. Even the Adventists who think they don't know Ellen are completely shaped by her. Their entire worldview is Ellen. Colleen | ||
| Snowboardingmom Registered user Username: Snowboardingmom Post Number: 340 Registered: 11-2005 |
VERY well said, Randy! Gilbert, I haven't been reading your exposing adventism threads because I didn't want to "re-live" those old messages. But, this afternoon, I spent my time reading through them. I have to tell you, I really appreciate you posting all these quotes. It's been good for me to "re-live"! It's so strange for me to read them now, in the stage I'm in. As an Adventist, I would read them and believe them and live by them! As a questioning Adventist, I would pick and choose certain quotes to accept, or rationalize those that didn't make any sense. As a newbie former, I just tended to brush them off and think, "What a nutcase! I can't believe I ever thought she was credible!" Now, at this particular stage (still sort of a new former, but more grounded in mainstream Christianity), these quotes are appalling to me! It's just outright sick the way she elevates Satan. Reading it makes me so angry! And it's disgusting!! Her insights cannot be a result of her "medical condition". They are too subtlely deceptive. Her insights are definitely a result of her compromised spiritual condition. Her obsession with the power of evil is so revealing! On sort of the same topic of extrabiblical non-truths, I was reading through the end of Revelation and read Revelation 22:18, 19 (for the first time I think!). It says, "I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book." How come I never heard that in all of the Revelation seminars I went to? Grace | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6806 Registered: 12-2003 |
Excellent question, Grace. Colleen |
