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Jorgfe
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would like to create a directory of churches that are now pastored by former SDA pastors, and would appreciate any information you have. I am just looking for former SDA pastors who are still faithful to the Bible basics.

Here are some entries to start the list:

United States:
==== Arizona ====
Phoenix -
Calvary Community Church
12612 N. Black Canyon Hwy.
Phoenix, AZ. 85029
(602) 973-4768
http://www.calvaryphx.com/

J. Mark Martin, Senior Pastor
calvary@calvaryphx.com


==== Colorado ====
Berthoud -
Grace Place Church
250 Mountain Avenue
P.O. Box O
Berthoud, CO 80513
(970) 532-9886
http://www.graceplace.org/

Clay Peck, Senior Pastor
clay@graceplace.org


==== Georgia ====
Marietta -
Marietta First Christian Church
(Disciples of Christ)
569 Frasier Street SE
Marietta, Georgia 30060
(770) 428-3125
http://fccmarietta.org/

Jerry A. Gladson Ph.D., Senior Minister
fccseniormin@bellsouth.net


==== Indiana ====
Franklin -
Christian Community Church
6956 N 575 E
Franklin, Indiana 46131
(317) 535-6400
http://www.christiancommunitychurch.us/

Sydney Cleveland, Senior Pastor
syd@christiancommunitychurch.us


==== Maryland ====
Damascus -
Damascus Road Community Church
9886-B Main Street
PO Box 554
Damascus, MD 20872
(301) 253-5276
http://www.damascus.com/

Richard Fredericks Ph.D., Senior Pastor
damascus@damascus.com


==== Pennsylvania ====
Lancaster -
Hempfield Brethren in Christ Church
2600 Marietta Ave.
Lancaster, PA 17601
(301) 253-5276
http://www.hempfieldchurch.com/

Greg Taylor, Senior Pastor
gregt@hempfieldchurch.com
Flyinglady
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I understand the following church is pastored by a former SDA minister. I will check more on it.
Riverside Community Church
4850 Jurupa Ave.
Riverside, CA 92504

There is also a former SDA minister in Vienna, VA who was starting a church. I will have to call him and ask him about it.
Diana
Jorgfe
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Diana, thank you for your help. It looks like their URL is http://riversidecommunitychurch.com/.
Worship services are Saturdays at 11 am. It looks like they still have some connection with Andrews University ...

quote:

RCC Worship, Arts and Media Ministry presents a mini-conference on Saturday, September 15 from 3 to 6:30 pm. The keynote speaker is Nicholas Zork and the featured clinician is Chariya Bissonette. Zork is a youth pastor and Director of the Andrews University Music and Worship Conference. Bissonette is a worship leader, recording artist, vocal coach and a Maranatha Music vocal clinician. Assisting in the musicians breakout clinic will be Bobby G, the Worship Coach at RCC.


That was all I was able to find out from their website.
Flyinglady
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I saw the sabbath services I did a quick search of any SDA connection. It was just a quick one. That may not be one that you want to list.
Diana
Jorgfe
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Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 11:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep - http://www.eadventist.net/search/organization.asp?org=ANPMM1
Riverside Community SDA Church
Address: 4850 Jurupa Ave
Riverside CA 92504-1709
Mail: PO Box 2157
Riverside CA 92516-2157
Phone: 951-686-1886
FAX: 951-684-7313
Pastor: Eric Brown
Markmartin
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 1:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jorgfe,

I think you have a great idea going! Would you consider distinguishing between former Adventist pastors who are still Saturday sabbatarians and those who are not? It might be a helpful point for some.

I think of Eric Bahme, now pastor of Eastside Foursquare Church in Portland, OR.

Here's his info:
Eastside Foursquare Church
9727 NE Sandy Blvd
Portland, OR 97220
503-226-4900
Pastor Eric Bahme

The Lord bless you,

Pastor Mark
Markmartin
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 1:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jorgfe,

I think you have a great idea going! Would you consider distinguishing between former Adventist pastors who are still Saturday-sabbatarians and those who are not? It might be a helpful point for some.

I think of Eric Bahme, now pastor of Eastside Foursquare Church in Portland, OR.

Here's his info:
Eastside Foursquare Church
9727 NE Sandy Blvd
Portland, OR 97220
503-226-4900
Pastor Eric Bahme

The Lord bless you,

Pastor Mark
River
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 4:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Four Square Church is not Saturday-Sabbatarian is it?

They are over on East Sandy, I think towards Costco and the Four Squares have never been Saturday Sabbatarian that I know of.

Or maybe you just meant that he (Bahme) is former SDA Mark.
River

(Message edited by river on September 06, 2007)
Asurprise
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's wonderful that the Lord is bringing His people out of deception!
Loneviking
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Four-Squares are not sabbatarian. Riverside Community Church is SDA, with extremely aberrent theology.
Jamundson
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pastor Mark, What a surprise to here about East Side Four Square Church in Portland. This was the first church my wife and I landed in after leaving Adventism. Jerry Cook (non SDA)was the senior Pastor at that time.

What was so memorable about the church was the pastor and elders prayed over my wife and I for healing. We had great difficulty in conception and birth defects causing our unborn children to be lost. The next month (cycle) my wife became pregnant with our son (and only natural child) He is now 27 , healthy, loves Jesus, and a father himself. It was that experience that solidified our departure from Adventism and we have never looked back. It was a miracle for us and we praise God every day for His blessings.

My wife just informed me it was the Eastlake Four Square in Gresham....opps... I'll post this anyway

Jay
Markmartin
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi gang,
It is my understanding that brother Eric is a former SDA. The Foursquare denomination is not a Saturday-sabbath keeping denomination, though a few of their churches have experimented with holding services on different days to reach out to different people groups.

Hope this clarifies.

Pastor Mark
River
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 3:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jamundson,

hey, what a testimony for Jesus, I have to confess to belonging to the Four Square fer about 15 years. Of course it was a small church. I have heard very good reports of Jerry Cook. Small world.

The cleared er up for me Mark, the Church Bro. Eric has is a Motel model, I just saw one going into Portland this morning so it doesn't surprise me they experimented with Saturday services outreach.

There is a ministry in Portland caelled the "Bridges" Ministry, they go out under the many bridges and take clean socks to the homeless who camp under there and pray for them.

There are many good Christains doing a work out of a heart of love for our Lord.
River
Jeremy
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 3:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert,

Apparently Jerry Gladson has retired and is no longer the Pastor of First Christian Church:

http://fccmarietta.org/left_bar/staff.htm

http://www.gadisciples.org/news/Cong/FCCMarietta.htm

Jeremy
Jorgfe
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeremy, thank you. My wife and I attended Southern (Missionary College) in the 70's when Jerry Gladsen, Ed Zachrison, and Lorenzo Grant were told to hit the road. They were all really great Bible teachers. I especially enjoyed Revelation class from Ed. I truly wish I had known then what I know now about Adventism.

Gilbert Jorgensen
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Eric Bahme is a former Adventist, and I believe he is a Sunday Sabbatarian--at least he used to be.

And Loneviking is right: Riverside Community Church is a full Adventist church with the pastor on the conference payroll. It's completely deceptive, masquerading as "just" a local church that happens to meet on Saturday. But they are Adventist with theology that is not orthodox Christianity nor orthodox Adventism. I consider it to be more dangerous than a mainstream Adventist church because it pretends NOT to be Adventist in its advertising...much like that Bible study, Diana!

One last comment: the Christian Church (as in the First Christian church) of which Disciples of Christ is a subset is actually a liberal church which, in general, holds what we would call a "low view" of Scriptural inerrancy. There are exceptions, but in general it is very liberal church. There are members on this board who have had personal experience in the Christian Church who might speak more specifically to this issue...

Colleen
Jorgfe
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen, how is a person a Sunday Sabbatarian? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Gilbert Jorgensen
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, it is...I've never understood how they rationalize that...but it's the view held by many Christians who believe the Bible teaches observing "a day". It's harder for me to understand how a former Adventist arrives at this position, but I guess some do!

Colleen
Benevento
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any one know Pat Nave, he was up in the Washington Conf. Was in my area but I only heard about him, He started a small group
www.thebridgewa.com then left for central California. While in this area he spoke several
times at the Mt. Vernon WA SDA church, and was
liked very much--some of the members attended his
little church I understand. Which reminds me does
any one know what happened to the Bridge church in Portland, or Milwaukee, Ore? It was started
by a couple of SDA pastors, I haven't heard about it lately. They did meet on Saturday. Peggy
Susans
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the Riverside SDA church the one with the flamboyant woman pastor?

Also, Gilbert, many people who hold to covenant theology consider Sunday the Christian Sabbath and I think would be classified as Sunday Sabbatarians. Check out the section on the 10 commandments in the Westminster Confession for more information

Susan

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