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| Mommyk Registered user Username: Mommyk Post Number: 26 Registered: 4-2007  |
I received this forwarded email from my very-SDA mother. It was sent to her from her very-SDA friend: "(Name removed) gave me a copy of one of the latest books entitled "Dramatic Prophecies of Ellen White" which I am currently reading. It is a must read for each professing SDA. You can get if from your ABC for $17.99, much less than the blessing you will accrue from perusing it. Elder Herbert Edgar Douglass, the author, writes in an easy-to-read style but he brings out how things are being fulfilled all around our ears. We need to refresh our minds so we can prepare ourselves for what's ahead. Our future rests in our knowledge and acting on that knowledge so we will be a people ready to meet our Lord. He points out how many of these prophecies have either been fulfilled or are being fulfilled. We hope to purchase a copy for each of our children." Oh brother! *rolling eyes* Kristen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 623 Registered: 11-2005 |
Ellen would be proud of the continued revenue stream that her "writings" provide the Seventh-day Adventist Church. It is a real "cash cow". It reminds me of all the "inspirational" heritage videos that the Mormon Church keeps producing for all the "Saints" to buy here in Utah! Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 1026 Registered: 8-2004  |
O my! Somebody has a good sales spiel for believers. I am saddened to think how many people get sidetracked down the 'lesser light' alleys when God has given us the amazing blaze of his Son for our delight. Mary | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 608 Registered: 5-2007 |
Actually I don't think even one of her "prophecies" ever came true did they? I know I've heard Adventists claim that EVERYTHING EGW "prophesied" came true but I don't see it. In 1856 in a meeting in Battle Creek she predicted that some that were at that meeting would be alive an translated when Jesus returned. Everybody at that meeting has been LONG DEAD, way more than 50 yrs. Ellen herself has been dead 92 yrs! She also predicted Jerusalem would never be "rebuilt". Ha! Israel is and has been a nation again for almost 60 years! She predicted England would attack the US during the Civil War and "humble it to the dust". Never happened. The Brits did have troops stationed in Windsor ready to take Michigan back if the US lost the war but they were waiting to see if the Union would lose. Didn't happen. | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 626 Registered: 11-2005 |
Reb, the only true prophecy of Ellen White that I am aware of is the one she made about some trying to discredit her testimonies in the last days. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 610 Registered: 5-2007 |
That one does appear to be true, but as we know one true prophecy amidst countless not true ones does not a true prophet make. | ||
| Pheeki Registered user Username: Pheeki Post Number: 880 Registered: 1-2003 |
"Our future rests in our KNOWLEDGE...?????" That is where SDA's go seriously wrong...Our future rests on WHO we KNOW...Jesus Christ. | ||
| Mommyk Registered user Username: Mommyk Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2007 |
AMEN!! | ||
| Patriar Registered user Username: Patriar Post Number: 312 Registered: 3-2005 |
A logical outcome is different than a prophecy even if the words "I was shown" are thrown in front of it. So in my thinking, that wasn't a prophecy much less one that was fulfilled. Patria | ||
| Patriar Registered user Username: Patriar Post Number: 313 Registered: 3-2005 |
Kristen: I ache for your mother. That's a terrible place to be...to feel like she is her own hope for salvation. I'm sure she believes that she will live without an intercessor after probation closes and needs to reach a state of perfection before that. Patria | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 613 Registered: 5-2007 |
I am now thinking that Ellen's prediction about some trying to discredit her Testimonies hasn't come true, either. NO ONE needs to discredit Ellen's Testimonies. They do a fine job of discrediting themselves. | ||
| Luzisbornagain Registered user Username: Luzisbornagain Post Number: 97 Registered: 7-2007 |
Pheeki, I was thinking the same exact thing when I read that. It's such a shame and it's sad that that is their only basis which they rest on. It's like the foolish man who built his house upon sand. | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 532 Registered: 5-2002 |
Ellen's exact words were that some folks would "make of none effect" her Testimonies. Oh, if only that one WOULD see fulfillment! Can you imagine a world in which Ellen White's writings have no effect?! | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2055 Registered: 10-2004  |
Here is the statement from EGW:
Obviously, none of that is a true prophecy, as it is full of falsehood! Jeremy | ||
| Patriar Registered user Username: Patriar Post Number: 317 Registered: 3-2005 |
Jeremy: Thank you for sharing the quote. Now I'm a little irritated. I hadn't seen that one. There's NOTHING true in there..well except maybe this: "but honest souls, by contrasting false and true,"  Why in THE WORLD are people so often telling me that my actions are proving she's a true prophet? UGGHHH. Patria | ||
| Susans Registered user Username: Susans Post Number: 430 Registered: 8-2006 |
Unfortunately, I've read that quote so many times I almost had it memorized. It irritates me too, Patriar. Jeremy, is there a time frame for this quote? I got rid of my books 5 years ago so I can't read the surrounding commentary. It's statements like this that lead me to believe that EGW was not innocently deceived as a result of her head injury.  Susan | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2057 Registered: 10-2004 |
Susan, If you mean a time frame for when it was supposed to take place, there doesn't seem to be a specific one given. If you meant when it was written, it was written on August 12, 1890. Jeremy | ||
| Susans Registered user Username: Susans Post Number: 435 Registered: 8-2006 |
It means she wrote it near the end of her life. I was going to write more, but I'll just leave it at she knew what she did. 29 years later was the 1919 Bible Conference, when some leaders of the SDA church wanted to tell the truth. The truth didn't come out and this statement still is published by the church today. Susan (Message edited by SusanS on August 22, 2007) | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2059 Registered: 10-2004 |
I agree, Susan, that it is clear from all of the evidence that she knew what she was doing. And as Colleen said on another thread, even being deceived doesn't make a person innocent. Jeremy | ||
| Susans Registered user Username: Susans Post Number: 436 Registered: 8-2006 |
You know, I keep thinking of those statements 'those who are eating meat will not be translated', while Ellen was demanding Willie get her a chicken to eat; 'unclean meats are an abomination to the Lord' while she hid behind a curtain on a train to eat her oysters among many others and I just can't swallow the idea that she truly believed that what her "accompanying angel" who was with her all those years told her and the things "I was shown" or "I saw". Tonight, I'm angry. I'm angry for all the psychological damage, spiritual abuse and mental anguish of all you who post here who bear the scars of the legacy of EGW. Including myself. May God grant me the ability to forgive. |
