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| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 467 Registered: 5-2007 |
http://www.bibleplus.org/books/Roger%20Morneau's%20Trip%20into%20the%20Supernatural.pdf The SDA church is basically being praised by "demons" as the only Christians who cannot be decieved. Also, it mentions that Satanists belive in the Great Controversy as well. This really gives me the heeebejeebees! | ||
| Laurie Registered user Username: Laurie Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2007 |
Who runs this site?? | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6426 Registered: 12-2003  |
I remember when Roger Morneau was all the rage, before he died, with the Adventists. I remember hearing about him in the early 90's. He had converted to Adventism from the occult, and he told the stories of how the demons tried to keep him from converting, and how they told him Adventism was the most dangerous church--he'd never come back if he went there...etc. The Adventist church published Morneau's books and touted him as an occult expert. The most convoluted and—well—typical odd-ness about the whole phenomenon was that the Adventists used the demon's supposed hatred for Adventism as proof that they really were the true church. Who actually uses the testimony of demons to validate the truth? When the demon-possessed slave girl in Philippi followed Paul around saying he was preaching Christ, he rebuked her and cast out the demon. No matter whether the words are true or not, when they come from the wrong spirit, the message is tainted. There's just something so wrong with the whole concept of having special insider information/confirmation because of the testimony of demons. Colleen | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 468 Registered: 5-2007 |
Laurie, BiblePlus apparantly runs this site. Not sure if they are SDA, but they seem to agree with conservative SDAs on about everything from what I've seen. IF SDAs know that demons "validated" Adventism, WHY doesn't that bother them. I woudl believe ANYTHING from a demon, if it came from a demon I would KNOW it's false! | ||
| Cortney Registered user Username: Cortney Post Number: 14 Registered: 8-2006 |
My MIL told me of a story in Canada,she grew up in Ontario,where they tried to baptize a woman who was possessd.She said it took several tries to finally baptize this woman.My MIL uses this as proof,because they almost could'nt baptize this woman, Adventism was the Truth,because demons hate the true church.My MIL said after a couple of years this particular woman left Adventism,because the deman overcame her and decieved her into believing Adventism is not the truth.MIL said this woman still lives in same area she grew up in,and is now a Catholic,which the demon loves because Catholocism is Satan's handmaiden!What a crock!A childhood friend of hers,an Adventist pastor,told MIL they pleaded with this woman not to leave,but it was to late,she already been decieved too deeply.Do these people know how to brainwash or what!Wow talk about using Satan as proof to back up your church! | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 469 Registered: 5-2007 |
I wouldn't believe ANYTHING that came from a demon. Period. Even IF a demon said something that might be true, it's tainted just by the source it's coming from. Just more proof that Adventism is probably a cult. | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 1996 Registered: 10-2004  |
They think they can just ignore 1 Timothy 4:1-5 which talks about "deceitful spirits," I guess! Do they really think that demons always tell the truth?? So if the demons led Roger Morneau into Adventism (by saying the SDAs have the truth and can't be deceived), then how does that mean that Adventism is GOOD?! Actually, it would mean that demons WANT people to join Adventism, and are behind it. Again, more evidence that the Bible is right about Adventism having "doctrines of demons" (1 Timothy 4:1-5). Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on July 30, 2007) | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 471 Registered: 5-2007 |
This has convinced me that there just might be something "demonic" about Adventism. I find it rather disturbing that demons would give Adventism such an endorsement and as I said above, WHY doesn't that bother them. And of course they ignore 1 Timothy 4:1-5, Paul wrote it and they throw out anything that Paul wrote that EGW counterdicts. | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 128 Registered: 5-2007  |
 Simply put, bibleplus.org is a SDA website. Phil | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 1185 Registered: 9-2006  |
I been yelling for six months it's demonic, reminds me of the drunk crop duster in the movie "Independence Day" where he says "ain't I been sayin it all along?" River | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 1997 Registered: 10-2004 |
Here is the link to CARM where an SDA started the discussion about Roger Morneau's experience: http://www.christiandiscussionforums.org/v/showthread.php?t=64038 What I wrote above should be evidence even for an SDA. But for those of us who know that Adventism is not the truth, then all of this really proves that it is demonic. If Adventism is not the truth, then WHY would these demons tell someone that Adventists have the truth and are the most difficult people to deceive? It is obvious that those demons WANT people to get into Adventism. You're right, River, it truly is a demonic religion--as the Bible tells us (1 Timothy 4, 1 John 4, etc., etc.)! Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on July 30, 2007) | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 713 Registered: 6-2006  |
This seems to be yet another example of the fixation on Satan that EGW had. Satan is the scapegoat, Satan atones for our sins, Satan hears our prayers, demons "prove" the church has the truth, etc. ICK! Leigh Anne | ||
| Treasurehntr Registered user Username: Treasurehntr Post Number: 28 Registered: 7-2007 |
My cousin tried to interest me in Roger Morneau some years ago. The more he told me the more Morneau sounded like Mike Warnke. Needless to say, I never read the books. | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 484 Registered: 11-2005 |
Phil, you are right. http://sdaglobal.org/ Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Marysroses Registered user Username: Marysroses Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2007 |
hey jorgfe... I looked at that link.. all those translations, calls for translators wanted. I had a horrible thought I never had before. I'm guessing the translations of EGW into other languages are very well 'cleaned up'? After all, why bother translating anything embarrassing or bothersome. Somehow I just question the ethics of an organization that will publish the Clear Word bible, which after all, is the bible 'cleaned up' so as not to cause anyone any discomfort... Its terrible to think what could be in those translations... UGH! Can you imagine? EGW carefully reinterpreted to get those predictions right? Update the health message then claim it was given over a hundred years ago??? Please tell me I'm being paranoid. MarysRoses | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6435 Registered: 12-2003 |
Isn't it just too apropos, though, that the website is named "Bibleplus"?! it couldn't have been better named... Colleen | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 1999 Registered: 10-2004 |
Marysroses, Well, one of us formers could always sign up to "translate" EGW's writings into those other languages...hehehe. (Just kidding!) Jeremy | ||
| Dinolf Registered user Username: Dinolf Post Number: 59 Registered: 8-2005 |
Colleen wrote "I remember when Roger Morneau was all the rage, before he died, with the Adventists". What happend? Did he leave the church? /Dinolf | ||
| Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh Post Number: 660 Registered: 4-2006  |
Marysroses, I have read some of the EGW books translated to Danish, and yes, they do leave out some apparent blunders. | ||
| Freeindeed Registered user Username: Freeindeed Post Number: 41 Registered: 3-2006 |
Jeremy, Morneau has become a hot topic on CARM. Why people will believe demons and the people they communicate (supposedly) through over the Bible itself is beyond me. What is your moniker on CARM? (Message edited by Freeindeed on July 31, 2007) |
