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Reb
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 8:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you think about the SDA eschaltology, with the Sunday Laws and the continual obsession with the End Times to the point where that becomes the main focus. Don't y'all think Adventism has elements of a Doomseday Cult?

Just a thought.
Grace_alone
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 9:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reb, I agree. So often I want to ask "is there any hope?" I mean (in addition to the doomsday issue), if you ask any SDA to be completely honest, could they answer that they would pass probation? Would they be able to stand alone with confidence (without the mediator) and actually receive what they believe is salvation? I would ask if they are perfect and blameless and ready to bring Jesus back?

If they were completely honest I'm sure I know what the answer would be.

I truly believe that if you're relying soley on what the SDA church teaches, then there is no hope.

It's amazing too, because you're supposedly "safe" being in the "remnant".

Leigh Anne
Reb
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good points, Leigh Anne. When I was an Adventist I was honest with my answers to those questions and I believed I had at best a .001% chance of passing the IJ and probation.

My "hope" was to die before the Sunday Laws came.

How sad. Praise God I am out of that!
Flyinglady
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reb, I remember thinking the same thing at one time. Thank God I never died. Living in Jesus is so enriching and exciting.
Diana
Reb
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 7:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank God I no longer think like that.
Treasurehntr
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 6:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reb, I agree

That thought has crossed my mind many times. At this time I think the SDA church could become host to any number of dangerous doomsday movements.
It pains me because I see most SDA as honest folk who want a genuine relationship with Christ. However, the Church has replaced Christ with a paranoid, legalistic interpratation of scripture. When they don't find Christ in the denomination the risk is high they will get sucked into an even more paranoid spinoff.
I know i'm preaching to the Choir.
To be entirely honest, I was that person. It's such a shame a denomination so sure it has all the truth has no assurance in Christ.

Ken
Reb
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 7:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There were times I thought someday there will be Miller 2.0 happening, that's where this obessesion with the end could lead.

Glad I'm out of there, Praise God!
Asurprise
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, when I was an Adventist, I must have heard a lot more sermons on grace, because I believed that Jesus' righteousness would be in place of my own during that time. The thing that troubled me was what Ellen White said about people agonizing over whether every sin had been confessed in the time of trouble (after "probation" had closed and it was "too late" for anyone to repent). I would think "what if I can remember a sin?" because Ellen White said that the righteous wouldn't be able to remember their sins.
Dianne

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