| Author | Message | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 148 Registered: 5-2007 |
Pork is HUGE issue with my wife who is still an SDA. In fact her major objection to my switching to the Seventh Day Baptist church is the fact that Seventh Day Baptists are allowed to eat pork.(many of them including the Pastor at the church I attend are former SDAs and don't eat pork even though they could and I tried to tell her that but she hates the idea that I even could eat pork). And I admit I went on a secret pork binge when I first found my freedom but now I have decided that if pork is that offensive to my wife I won't eat it even when I am not around her I don't have to have it even though I can. I have made it very clear that there is NO going back to Adventism for me. If she is that bothered by my being allowed to eat pork even if I don't as an SDB I would be willing to go to a Messianic Synagogue instead if the Levitical food laws are THAT important to her but I WILL NOT go back to Adventism period I was too traumatised by Adventism's cultic doctrines to the point where my mental health was beginning to be affected. Again please understand where my wife is coming from, she truly loves me and does not want me to be "lost". And I am just not accepted as having the knowledge of the Bible to be able to show where the Levitical food laws no longer apply. I have quoted Romans 14 so much I know it by heart and it just gets ignored. (Message edited by Reb on June 20, 2007) | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 150 Registered: 5-2007 |
You see there is no being the "spiritual leader" of my household for me, I get the impression I am considered as being "unqualified", not having the proper "credentials" if you know what I mean. Because I was not raised in the SDA church and educated completely in Public Schools and from a non-Christian religious background before becoming an Adventist I am considered as being "ignorant" regarding the Bible even though I have had to really study as I found my way out of Adventism. Just thought I'd add this for those who have said I need to assert "spiritual leadership" in my household, I'm not being allowed to do this, so I have to work around this as best I can. | ||
| Gcfrankie Registered user Username: Gcfrankie Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2007 |
Reb I quit eating pork except bacon and when I cook it I mutilate it before I became an SDA. I am out of the SDA and I still won't eat it as I got very sick and almost died because of that nasty worm. It does not matter to God whether you were educated in the SDA schools or public schools. What matters to God is your belief in His Son Jesus Christ. In God's eyes you are the spiritual leader in your family. Remind your wife that there is God the Father, Jesus Christ, the husband, wife and the children in that order. Ask her to show you where in the bible not EGW writings where it says you are not the spiritual leader of your family. The only advise I can give you is to ask God for guidence and he will show you how to handle this. I don't condemn anyone who eat certain foods as I figure that is between them and God not the church. I love Galatians 5. I don't mean to sound harsh but I have been where you wife is about what you eat and learned that my salvation is not based on food. May God be with you both and I am sending many prayers for you and your wife to be able to work this out. God bless you both Gail | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 152 Registered: 5-2007 |
Thanks, Gail. I have faith in God that this situation will work out. | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 600 Registered: 6-2006  |
Hey Reb, Have you listened to Mark Martin's audio sermon about foods? It's at www.exadventist.org under audio. I was raised eating everything, and even I learned something new from listening. I think it's good to be sensitive, but you also need to be yourslef. In addition, your wife really does need you to be the spiritual head of household even though she might squawk about it a bit. I'll pray for you that God will direct your steps and your words. Do you pray together?  Leigh Anne | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 155 Registered: 5-2007 |
Yes, we pray together a lot. She is grudgingly accepting my switching from SDA to SDB and still considers me a Christian but is worried I am now "lost". Again it's out of love for me she feels this way. I listened to that audio sermon by Mark Martin it was great! | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 963 Registered: 8-2004  |
How can you be a Christian AND lost? They are antithetical! | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3815 Registered: 3-2004  |
Reb, I am praying for you and your wife and I am sure you are also. Steve Baldwin, Alec Baldwin's brother, tells in his book of when he became a Christian. His wife did not say anything to him, but prayed a lot for him and showed him a lot of love and kindness. So pray, a lot for her, show her you love her. She will come around, in God's time. Diana | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 905 Registered: 9-2006  |
Reb, I think my wife thinks I'm saved but lost too, she is always looking at me with a raised eyebrow and saying "There is just no hope"! River | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 157 Registered: 5-2007 |
I just keep on loving her and showing her love. I know eventually things will work out, in God's time. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3821 Registered: 3-2004 |
Reb, I am sure you have thought of this, but in case you have not, do you have a time of worship in the morning and evening? If you do, choose some non threatening verses from the Bible to read, then ask your wife to read and pray with you. If this offends you, I apologize, as that is not the reason I am putting this on here. Diana | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 158 Registered: 5-2007 |
No offense taken, Diana I think that is a wonderful suggestion. | ||
| Insearchof Registered user Username: Insearchof Post Number: 118 Registered: 8-2005 |
Reb, It must be a hard place to be in given that you have become an SDB while your wife is an active SDA. This make me realize how fortunate I am that my wife studied her way out the same time that I did. I would hate to think what a mess we would be! Having said that, I have a similar situation with the eating of pork. I find that eating should not be a test (something that an SDA cannot see). Eventhough my wife has no problem with eating pork now (she ate it as a child before becoming an SDA), I was raised an SDA and it is still something of a difficulty for me. I have done it and will likely eat it again, but there is some discomfort to me when I do. My wife thinks it is funny and gives me some grief (particularly when I buy turkey bacon!) and that has, I must admit, gotten under my skin. My advice as one sinner to another would be this: If it is a big deal to your wife that you not eat it, then I would not eat it. I would not look on it so much as a 'denial of your freedom in Christ' as it is keeping peace in your home. Since we all know just how big a deal it is to SDA's where pork is concerned, I would do what I could to be a Christian witness and keep the peace. You leaving Adventism is a hard thing, both for you and for her. It may take quite a while for her to adjust to this paradigm shift in your thinking. As long as you maintain your Christian character and show your wife each day that you are still in Christ by how you deal with the inevitable tensions that arise because of the SDA/SDB split, I believe that you will break down the wall a little each day. It is the Holy Spitit's job to convict, yours to be a vessel of grace to your wife. I would not make an obstacle out of my diet. Sorry to preach, but I know that Adventists will turn you off in a heartbeat over something like this. ISO | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 163 Registered: 5-2007 |
Thanks, ISO and you are so right. This is some great advice. | ||
| Laurie Registered user Username: Laurie Post Number: 16 Registered: 6-2007 |
Although I believe we are under no dietary restrictions, I can not even consider eating pork of any kind. Stupid... I know. It literally makes me sick, I can't even attempt it. I am fairly sure I never will. Same goes for all the seafood, shrimp, lobster, crab, etc. Just one more lingering effect of 40 years of brainwashing. Laurie | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 603 Registered: 6-2006 |
Laurie, would it make you feel better to know that the pigs were vegetarian? Seriously, corn fed! Hehe! Leigh Anne ...Don't hit me... (Message edited by grace_alone on June 21, 2007) | ||
| Laurie Registered user Username: Laurie Post Number: 18 Registered: 6-2007 |
LeighAnne - It is funny. I laugh at myself. My husband eats it in front of me now and he just laughs at me too. I can't help it. Unless you have been brainwashed like me, you can't understand. Maybe someday I'll get over it, but I doubt it. Laurie | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3828 Registered: 3-2004 |
Laurie, I was raised not eating pork. Mom read all the labels on all containers. So I did not eat pork but ate beef and other clean meats. On my first cruise with my oldest sister I had bacon, shrimp and lobster. They were good. The sad thing is I raised my son vegetarian and he will not touch meat. Diana | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 913 Registered: 9-2006 |
Laurie, Come on up here girl and I'll feed you some possum and grits and sweet taters and corn bread, we cookem with the heads on, yum, possum brains and eyeballs, make me hungry to think about. River I might even share my pork rinds although thats a stretch. | ||
| Laurie Registered user Username: Laurie Post Number: 19 Registered: 6-2007 |
Gross!!!! It doesn't really bother me in the big picture that I only eat certain meats. I was not raised vegetarian. It just feels like a part of SDA that I can't get rid of. That's all. Laurie |
