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| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3317 Registered: 3-2004  |
River, That was before I arrived here. I have only been in NV since November 2002. My sister may know about that blast as she has been here since the early 70s, I will ask her about it. Diana | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 389 Registered: 6-2006  |
((((((((((((((((SUSAN!))))))))))))  Thanks! | ||
| Stevendi Registered user Username: Stevendi Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2006 |
I fight and oppose adventism like a cancer survivor. It is healing to do so. I thank God for FAF and pray that others who suffer from sda toxic effects may discover it. Steve Norris | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 377 Registered: 9-2006  |
Steve old buddy, Now your are getting real. Just as David fought Goliath, there will be some that are sure to ask, ěWhat gives you the right to fight?î ěWho are you little man to come up against a force 14 million strong?î ěGo back down there and tend your sheeps and goats!î, my answer is the word of God gives me the authority, I have been given the right by them, they have tried to evangelize me and pull me in from day one. I never once said to them ěCome and be a Pentecostalî The armor of the denominations is too heavy and bulky for me, I am going to fight with three smooth stones, precious and tried stones, the father, the son, the Holy Ghost. His word will go before me. Go gettum Steve. River | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 498 Registered: 5-2002 |
The reasons I come here have evolved over the years. First, I came to find out. Next, I came to work it out. Then, I came to get out. After that, I came to proclaim why I AM out. After that, I came to help others find out and get out. Now, I come to see who else is getting out. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3326 Registered: 3-2004 |
Freeatlast, I like your post. Short, sweet and to the point. Thanks. Diana | ||
| Bobj Registered user Username: Bobj Post Number: 85 Registered: 1-2006  |
Diana Thank you for your loving spirit. I have read many of your posts and greatly appreciate the many things you have said to build up and encourage others in their walk with the Lord. Praise God!!! | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3328 Registered: 3-2004 |
River, I asked my sister about that Rocket fuel plant blast. She remembers it but not the year. Bobj, Thanks, but that is God. I am glad you praise Him. He is worthy of all praise. Diana | ||
| Bmorgan Registered user Username: Bmorgan Post Number: 115 Registered: 7-2000 |
Freeatlast, thank you for summing up what I was trying to articulate so I'd come across intelligent. No need for me to be redundant. Why am I here? Ask Brian, Freeatlast...Post Number: 498 Erma | ||
| Javagirl Registered user Username: Javagirl Post Number: 351 Registered: 6-2005 |
My first reaction was, I am here to pray. And I do read and pray regularly for posters and lurkers. The bigger part is, I think I still need the encouragement. I am still grieving leaving! I liked a lot about the adventist culture. It's only been 10 months for me, since I left adventism. Just this week, it hit me that my son will not be attending Academy next year. I always assumed he would. I am going to miss lots of things about that. He won't graduate from my alma mater. I stay to learn. I stay because I have already made friends here that I treasure. And I have one friend from Academy who lurks here. One day I pray I will see a post from her, that she is ready to leave the shadows, and jump fully into the substance. Cheers! (thanks Grace) Lori | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3330 Registered: 3-2004 |
((((((((((((Lori)))))))))))) Lori, I have learned how to give cyber hugs and here is one for you. Wish it was in person. Diana | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 500 Registered: 5-2002 |
If only the process of leaving this church and its prophet were so short and sweet... | ||
| Melissa Registered user Username: Melissa Post Number: 1530 Registered: 7-2003 |
Like Grace_alone, I am a 'never-was-er' who God lead to this place. I found it when my son was just a few months old. My ex lied his way into my life saying his religion was no different than mine except services were on Saturday instead of Sunday. For years, I studied their beliefs trying to find that similarity, but only found controversy and in some instances heresy. He kept telling me I wasn't studying scripture hard enough, or that I didn't understand what the Bible really meant, or that I was misapplying scripture, or taking it out of context, etc. I had begun to think I was losing my mind. There were extenuating circumstances as to why the battle was worth it to me...I have a retarded child and he was pretty supportive in the beginning. I can't tell you how hard it is to find people who want anything to do with someone with such a child. So, wanting to believe what he had said in the beginning provided additional motivation in the circumstances. Through the course of what I now believe was complete deception to manipulate me, I always believed we would some day get married...but I couldn't get over the religion hurdle. The words just never matched the actions and I had come to the end of my rope when I found out I was pregnant. That's when the terror of what I had come to believe about adventism really heightened. God lead me to this forum. From this forum, I found people who not only believed as I did about adventism, but having come out of it, had a credibility that I didn't have because B kept telling me I just didn't understand their beliefs well enough. Well, he could say that about me, but he couldn't say it about people on this forum who found the exact same 'truth' I did in their 'truth'. My ex calls all of my disagreements with adventist doctrine 'pure hate'. He says I am hateful because I not only disagree with the beliefs, but when he found out I was active on this forum, it was like betraying him. There are so many people on this forum who have experienced different aspects of my experiences that (as someone else said), it is my therapy that I am not crazy. I do understand scripture, and I do sincerely care about truth and I do disagree with their doctrines. So many people think that because people are 'nice' that somehow that almost excuses their doctrinal errors. To me, those things have little connection. Mormons are some of the most devout, kind, sincere people I've ever met, but I think they're lost as can be. That is sad to me, but I don't sugarcoat my opinion of their doctrine because I admire some aspects of their culture. I keep coming back (as has already been said) because so few in Christianity understand what it means to have such a connection to adventism (as my son is/will be). Now that I am the open enemy, rather than the one being manipulated and deceived, I need the support. And also, as someone else said, I don't want to waste my experiences if I can be a support or encouragement to someone else. That my opinion of adventist doctrines is defined as hate is somewhat ironic to me. If I hadn't loved the person as I did, I never would have bothered to understand what he believed. I don't know that an adventist can understand that much of the so-called negative conversation about adventism is more based upon love than our silence would have been. If a train was running on a track and our deaf and blind child did not know, we'd do what we could to pull him away. Unfortunately, adventist loved ones do not see our efforts as sincere or legitimate concern because they can't discern the train. I have probably said many things through the years to my ex that could have been worded differently. But the motivation was never something he could understand ... but people here can. You understand the conflict between doctrine and people and ignoring what is truth and living with integrity and character. People who have always been blind just can't understand the meaning of the colors of the rainbow. Like the aw and wonder when the Wizard of Oz goes from black and white to color. That's the difference between true Christianity and adventism to me. People here know what it means to see life in color. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 5274 Registered: 12-2003  |
Melissa, your post is so articulate. We are grateful to you, as well; your reactions to Adventism from a position of never having been one are so confirming to us. You and River and Leigh Anne and all the others who post here at times who have never been Adventist are tremendously affirming to us. Your mention of feeling as if you were losing your mind...many of us have felt that, too. And for sure the charges of "hate" are charges we can all understand. We hear it, too. Thank you for being part of us and for being so willing to speak out about what you know. Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3334 Registered: 3-2004 |
Melissa, I am in awe of what you have so eloquently said and your openness about yourself. I especially like the following statements because they are so true: "I don't know that an adventist can understand that much of the so-called negative conversation about adventism is more based upon love than our silence would have been....People who have always been blind just can't understand the meaning of the colors of the rainbow. Like the aw and wonder when the Wizard of Oz goes from black and white to color. That's the difference between true Christianity and adventism to me. People here know what it means to see life in color." I am so thankful you are here along with the others who have never been adventist but are connected to them in some way. I learn from each of you. I also know that we all belong to the same family-God's family of Christians. He is always awesome. Diana | ||
| Honestwitness Registered user Username: Honestwitness Post Number: 210 Registered: 7-2005  |
Melissa, I'm glad you're on this forum, too. When I look up all the posts from the last week, if I see your name in the list, I always read your posts. I don't always have time to read every single post, but I always read yours. Your insights are always clear and accurate. I ache for you and pray for you. Honestwitness | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 389 Registered: 9-2006 |
Melissa, I,m so glad you are here too, you got evangelized and it got really, really up close in your case, where as in mine, not such an involvement but they take the same slow steps to try an evangelize me, I canít see much difference in the process. So thankful you didnít fall for it, thatís a long black train and if one getís on it, it will take one further than one wanted to go and keep one longer that one wanted to stay. River | ||
| Doc Registered user Username: Doc Post Number: 227 Registered: 2-2003  |
Hi All, Itís probably a bit of a cheek my answering this, because I am not usually here at all nowadays, I just drop in from time to time. However: I was faced with rather a difficult situation before I found this site. I am British and live in Hungary. In the course of 15 years of being a Christian I had never encountered SDA in England, but they have rather a high profile in Hungary. There is a specifically Hungarian breakaway group from SDA here, known as ěChristian Advent Fellowship.î Although there are only about fifteen hundred of them in the country, they run a very successful and popular Bible school, and many Christians of all denominations attend their correspondence course. I joined a church leadership team here (not SDA) about 7 years ago, and the main leader at the time was attending this college, called ěSola Scriptura.î Not knowing much about SDA, it worried me a bit, but not too much. Anyway, they managed to persuade him of quite a few things. He almost became Adventist, and even when he did not, it took years to deprogram him of the stuff he learnt there. While all this was going on, I found this site to be extremely useful, edifying and informative about what is wrong with SDA and why. It was great to chat with people who have been on the inside, and yet discovered the errors and come out. Having sorted this problem out, I donít really need to be here so much now, in fact I donít often encounter Adventists any more. Though I still come across people in churches I preach at who are being given EGW books by their neighbours, so I put them off, or straight, or whatever. So I have never been Adventist, or tempted to be one, but the help, support and teaching I found here were really necessary at that particular time of my life. Thanks to all of you who helped. God bless, Adrian | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 795 Registered: 8-2004  |
Good of you to stop by Adrian! Even if you don't come much anymore it's good to hear how God continues to lead you. Blessings, Mary | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 397 Registered: 9-2006 |
Adrian, Glad you got the chance to drop by and God bless you over the Big Pond as we call it around here. I live on the Pacific Coast in the Northwest. Glad you got the help you needed. The Lord richly bless you. River |
