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U2bsda
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 11:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did anyone celebrate Easter as an Adventist? I remember attending a sunrise service when I was in academy, but for the most part there was maybe something special for the Sabbath service and Sunday was treated like any other day.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

U2, my experience was much like yours. When my sister and I were small, my mom did help us color some eggs and hide them for us, but the actual significance of Easter was not discussed except briefly and superficially. I realize that as an Adventist, I was not taught that we are spiritually brought to life by Jesus' resurrection lifeóthe same Spirit that raised Jesus raises us. In my mind, Jesus' resurrection was all about a promise for an eventual possibilityóthat I might possibly be resurrected one day if I was faithful.

I remember learning that Easter was essentially a pagan holiday, and that the Easter dresses and ham dinners and sunrise services were all related to pagan rituals and values, etc.

The great irony I have only recently come to see is that as an Adventist we could hunt for Easter eggs "just for fun" as a nod to a widely-accepted holiday, but the sunrise services and church celebrations were especially off-limits. We could enjoy the most pagan of the Easter symbols, but we could not participate in the spiritually meaningful parts of Easter.

Colleen
Susans
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is quite ironic, isn't it, Colleen. I have come to realize that as an Adventist I minimized Christ's resurrection on Easter, because of the pagan associations I had learned. There was always an emphasis in that Christ continued to "keep Sabbath" by resting in the tomb. I remember having sunrise services compared to the passage in Ezekiel where the people were facing towards the east...I think that was a reference to Tammuz.

Susan
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all
Happy New Year!

Wow Colleen- you got to hide eggs? that's very liberal of your parents.
In the adventist community where I grew up everything that had to do with easter was shunned. I certainly never touched an egg.
It was a worse pariah than christmas. I actaully disliked the easter season and thought it ridiculous and somber. Ouch!
I was told that the Bible didn't say to celebrate Jesus' death even though His death was significant. Interestingly enough, the text that adventists keep going back to about the sabbath is the text Gen 2 v 2 or 3 that talks about God resting on the sabbath day- funny enough there isn't anything there that says we should WORSHIP on that day- but they do and use it as a proof text.
Selective thinking- or is it selective conditioning?

Al-Nadean
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I look back on my time in adventism, I realize that very little attention was paid to the easter season. Maybe it was mentioned in church, but I do not remember it. My parents let us decorate eggs for easter and never said anything against it. When my son was little, I told him the resurrection story, but got him an easter basket with some candy, eggs, and a toy so he would not be different than the kids at school, the SDA school.
I am thankful now that I am free to celebrate Resurrection Sunday and know the Jesus that was resurrected. He is so very awesome.
Diana
U2bsda
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 7:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Al-Nadean,

I didn't hide eggs or get Easter baskets either. I was surprised to hear here that others did.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, we got to hide eggs a few times, but there were no chocolates! No, the sugar would have been against all health principlesóchocolate eggs could not be justified nutritionally in any way.

Colleen
U2bsda
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bet there are several here who have "indulged" in Carob bars in their past :-)
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 11:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I grew up with carob chips and hot carob instead of hot chocolate. it just was no substitute for chocolate!

Colleen
Randyg
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Posted on Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 11:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Our house is a Carob-free zone.
Don't even try it!!
U2bsda
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 12:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So anyone know why carob was okay and chocolate was not? Was it the caffeine in chocolate?
Susans
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 6:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ick to carob! I still get an awful taste in my mouth just thinking about it! Yes, it was because of the caffeine-like substance theobromine in the chocolate. Supposedly like coffee. Which also brings up another memory...fake coffee! That stuff with the chicory in it used to stain my teeth.

Oh, the things I subjected my family to when following the "health message".

Susan
(posted while drinking a cup of wonderful German coffee) :-)
Lrcrabtree
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 8:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Postum - Think it was called...My parents used to drink it, but sometime after I grew up and moved out they migrated to caffeinated coffee....lol
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 8:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Mom did not use carob. It was to expensive. She did make postum though. She whipped it up with milk and made it frothy. I drank it that way as a kid, but did not subject my son to it.
Diana
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 8:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember one time when I had Tennessee valley fever and my Mom made me drink Castor Oil.
I donít know whether it would be better to drink Castor Oil than to live like you all did. Har-de har.

The Tennessee valley fever was bad, now when I get a chest x-ray and the Doc comes in with it in his hand I just say ìTennessee Valleyî and he says ìYupî and lays the x-ray down.

Anyway thanks for cheering me up this morning, I needed that.
River
Susans
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 8:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol,River.

When I was in the "no oil, no sugar, no taste" phase of my following the health message I made some awful concoctions out of things. Two that come to mind were a mango pie and a mock salmon loaf. Now I love mangoes, having lived in the Carribbean and picked them off the tree when I was a child. However, the mango pie that I made was inedible.

The mock salmon loaf beat everything, though. It was made with flour, tomato sauce and peanut butter. I remember taking it from the oven, tasting a corner of it, and then opening the trash and dropping the entire thing in there.

I have to laugh sometimes when I think of those times. I did learn to experiment in my cooking, though.

Susan
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 9:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, the memories! Growing up we had postum, carob, soymilk topping (instead of whipped cream), soy mayonnaise, etc. Then if we got sick, it was really horrible. We had to drink chloryphyll stuff in our juice and/or have golden seal tea. Out of the whole list, postum was the only tolerable one - though I haven't had any of these things since leaving home. (I don't do coffee or tea either - can't stand the thought of it.)

I always looked forward to any SDA outings that included food, because there would be real mayonnaise, eggs, real chocolate. I thought we were the only strange ones.
Jdpascal
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We also had Postum when I was growing up back in the day.....

The historic SDA's must be having a fit over the article in one of the last Canadian Union Messenger magazines. There was small piece about the "benefits" of chocolate. I usually throw it out but if I can still find it, I'll post it.

Colleentinker
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 11:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Postum...I didn't mind it made with milk. My mom sometimes even bought a percolator-variety (non-instant). It's kind of funny to ponder the lengths to which we all would go to eat foods that resembled the real thing instead of just not eating whatever we disapproved of.

Speaking of which, did you all have Wham? I actually liked it, but I often wondered, as a naive kid, how all those vegetarian food manufacturers figured out how to make food resemble meat. (I realize now it didn't often resemble the real thing that closely, but...)

The great irony, however, was creating fake ham when we not only considered ham unadvisable in the category of beef, but outright unclean and sinful. So we had fake unclean, sinful food! We enjoyed the Wham, but I remember never being allowed to even touch candy cigarettes. Now I'm glad we weren't allowed, but from my young Adventist persepctive, ham and cigarettes were in very similar categories.

It's all funny to look back on, but what dissonance!

Colleen
Susans
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roma instant was actually the one I could tolerate best.

It is quite ironic that we as Adventists ate things that imitated unclean, sinful foods. Wham, stripples, prosage, etc. It's like keeping one foot in Sodom, enjoying the sinful aspects, and one foot in Canaan.

As a convert, I thought it was nice to be able to imitate some recipes that used pork, but I suppose a born-into SDA would have found that more odd.

Believe it or not, I have a couple of cans of Vegeburger in my pantry and some pecan meal in the freezer. I make a pretty good fake sausage out of those things. All the cheese I add, though, doesn't really make it a "health food." :-O

Susan

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