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| Author | Message |  | Flyinglady Registered user
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 | | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 6:39 pm: |      | 
 I am starting early to wish all of you a Blessed Christ filled Christmas.
 For Christmas this year I would like everyone to have God's peace in their soul and life and to know that Jesus is your salvation.
 Have a Very Merry Christmas and may the New Year find you closer to Jesus.
 Thank you God for all the folks who post here and those who lurk.  May each of them know Jesus and find that He is all each of us needs.
 You are so AWESOME.
 Diana
 |  | Mwh Registered user
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 | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 3:33 am: |      | 
 
  thanks Diana! 
 I wish you all a very Merry Christmas as well, may the Spirit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, lead and guide each of your steps, may your mind be the mind of Christ. Amen.
 
 I want to join the chorus, yes God you are indeed AWESOME!
 
 In Christ
 |  | Dd Registered user
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 | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 5:20 am: |      | 
 If any of you have the chance to see "The Nativity Story" in the next few weeks, I highly recommend it.  My daughter and I saw it this weekend and we both loved it.  It takes the fairy tale part of the story of Jesus' birth and puts it right into the reality of the day.
 
 I was not the only one moved to tears as I heard many sniffles.  The theater was absolutely silent for several minutes after the movie was over.  I wanted to shout, "WE HAVE A SAVIOR!"
 
 What a remarkable reality to hold onto.
 
 May you all experience His reality during this special season and all year long.
 
 Denise
 |  | Susans Registered user
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 | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 6:04 am: |      | 
 Denise,
 
 I wanted to see this film, but did not get a chance over the weekend.  I will definitely make time to go, then.  It looked as thought it might be faithful to the biblical account.
 
 May we all remember the reason for this Christmas season, that God became incarnate in order to save all those who receive Him and believe on His name.
 
 Thank you Jesus, for loving us enough to become a man and to live, and die, for us.
 
 Susan
 |  | Riverfonz Registered user
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 | | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 8:58 pm: |      | 
 Here is one of the most inspiring newer Christmas songs I have ever heard, and this one is recorded by Selah, and it is called "The Rose of Bethlehem":
 
 "A child was born on Christmas day
 Born to save the world
 But long before the world began
 He knew His death was sure
 The pain and strife secured"
 
 Mystery, how He came
 to be a man
 But greater still
 How His death was in His plan
 God predestined that His
 Son would die
 And He still created man
 Oh, what love is this
 That His death was in His hands.
 
 The Christmas trees
 They glow so bright
 With presents all around
 But Christmas brought
 A tree of life
 With blood that sacrificed
 The greatest gift in life.
 
 Mystery, how He came
 to be a man
 But greater still
 How His death was in His plan
 God predestined that His
 Son would die
 And He still created man
 Oh, what love is this
 That His death was in His hands.
 
 I am just a man and
 Can't begin to comprehend
 When You look into this traitor's eyes
 what do You see that
 justifies the Lamb.
 
 God predestined that His
 Son would die
 And He still created man
 Oh, what love is this
 That His death was in His plan
 Mystery, mystery.
 
 A blessed Christmas season to all!
 
 Stan
 
 |  | Mwh Registered user
 Username: Mwh
 
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 | | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 5:54 am: |      | 
 Thanks for the song Stan, it is going around the world!
 
 Jesus you are so awesome, I love you!
 |  | River Registered user
 Username: River
 
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 | | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 1:58 pm: |      | 
 On Christmas Eve 1914 as the war raged on in what became known as trench warfare British and Germans alike laid aside their weapons and held a small unauthorized truce that lasted through Christmas day of that year, men met between the trenches and exchanged bits of food and so forth.
 In 1861 it is recorded that soldiers faced each other over dirt and log berms and as darkness came on it would be a waste of ammo to shoot so as the solders with the blue and the grey faced off it is said that one evening a southerner yelled over to the Yankee side ìHey yank ye got any baccy?î and that started a little unauthorized fraternization with the enemy as they traded in between the bunkers and berms.
 This Christmas I would like to spend some time praying for the soldiers of our nation. I pray that men would lay aside war and animosity toward one another. I pray for the peace of Israel. I pray for my friends on the forum.
 Merry Christmas.
 River
 
 |  | Flyinglady Registered user
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 | | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:34 pm: |      | 
 River,
 I have read various stories of Christmas during the various wars.  Like you I pray for our military where ever they are.  I have a special reason.  My son is active duty Air Force at this time.  So, I too, pray for peace and putting war aside and peace for all nations.  This is in addition to the prayers I have for all those on the forum and on our prayer list.
 Again, I pray all of you have a God filled Merry Christmas.
 Diana
 |  | Agapetos Registered user
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 | | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 1:46 am: |      | 
 Thanks, everyone, for everything said here.  You all are awesome and your hearts are pictures of God to me.
   
 River, I read a book called "Silent Night" about the 1914 Christmas truce.  It was an astounding occurance.  They started Christmas eve, and it continued in many places all the way through Christmas and Boxing Day as well.  The better part of Christmas day, however, was spent burying the dead who had been lying in "no-man's land" between the trenches for so long.
 
 Probably the thing that shocked me the most was how the war was "re-started" after the truce.  Many soldiers on both sides had a hard time shooting at the people they had just talked to, posed in pictures with, traded cigars and beer with, etc.  Many commanders had to force them to start killing one another.  Some soldiers were threatned with corporal punishment because they protested, "They're good people!" about their "enemies".  Maybe the main reason that the war was able to re-start was that fresh units were brought from further behind the lines -- people who had not experienced the "fraternization", and who would still have the war posters & propaganda in their minds, instead of a fresh up-close look at the people they had drank with the day before.
 
 It's such an awesome, tragic, and yet challenging event.  It is awesome the way the horror stopped, the way bonds quickly formed, in short, the way that the mere memory of Christ's birth inspired people to look at one another as humans instead of in-human foes that must be defeated.  And it is tragic because it was "necessary" to continue the war, because the whole business truly couldn't be settled over a game of poker.  It was tragic that people in positions of power were angry about the truce, that they prevented it from re-occurring in 1915 and ever after, that they later tried to stop the publication of the event for fear it would damage the "war effort" at home.  It's tragic and it is sick.
 
 And last of all, the 1914 truce is challenging, a direct statement, a call from God in history to us today, telling us to look at people as people, to get up out of our trenches and make peace with one another, to not let ourselves be manipulated by higher authorities, to truly see each other as Christ saw each of us, not only crossing "no-man's land" to come to earth, but even becoming one of us and dying for us, so that we may "fraternize" with Him and Father and all the hosts of holy heaven.  I'm challenged by it, and I'm moved.
 
 Bless you all, and peace to you this season.
 Ramone
 |  | Mwh Registered user
 Username: Mwh
 
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 | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:09 am: |      | 
 I have a song about that truce on one of my Christmas albums .. nice to get to hear your thoughts on the issue.
 
 Jesus you are wonderful!
 |  | Mwh Registered user
 Username: Mwh
 
 Post Number: 414
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 | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:12 am: |      | 
 Stan, I got to responses on the song you posted, both from to former adventists, they did not like it, you see they have been talking a lot with Jehovas Witnesses and do not like Christmas, they argue that it has taken with other holidays the place of the sabbath ... Oh my.
 
 Have any of you guys heard that argument, spin in favor of keeping the Sabbath?
 |  | Riverfonz Registered user
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 | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:08 pm: |      | 
 Mwh,
 
 For a person not to like that song I posted, they would have to not believe the gospel. That song speaks to the heart of Christmas if you are a Christian.
 
 Stan
 |  | Mwh Registered user
 Username: Mwh
 
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 | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 2:22 pm: |      | 
 They are still entrenched in the old covenant, believing that the law can be split up in Decalogue , ceremonial etc. and of course keeps the Sabbath. Of course they are former adventists, not part of the SDA-church, knows that EGW is a false prophet and that the 1844 doctrine is as false as it can be.
 Please pray for them.
 |  | Agapetos Registered user
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 | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 1:00 am: |      | 
 Hey Mwh, what's the song about the truce?  That sounds interesting.
 |  | Mwh Registered user
 Username: Mwh
 
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 | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 2:40 am: |      | 
 Agapetos, I got a CD called "Absolute Christmas Disc 2" which contains the song "Jul I Ingenmandsland" (Christmas in no mans land), thats about the truce, but its in Danish. I'm not sure if its an original Danish work or its a translation ...
 
 The text can be found here:
 http://www.fredsakademiet.dk/abase/sange/sang5.htm
 (peace academy)
 
 The song is written by Lars Lilholt, he found sources for the song from an English book full of letters sent home by English soldiers.
 
 The front cover can be seen here:
 http://www.larslilholtband.dk/billeder/jul_i_ingenmandsland_low.jpg
 
 Its fantastic, I'll send this song to everyone I know who understands Danish. Lets see, I'll translate it to English today and I'll post it here
   
 Jesus lives!!
 |  | Mwh Registered user
 Username: Mwh
 
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 | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 5:42 am: |      | 
 Okay here it is, a very quick translation, I would appreciate it if you guys could fix it up a bit
  (post it again, with the fixes) 
 Christmas in No Man's Land
 
 It was the Christmas of 1914
 during first world war
 On the western front, 2 gigantic armies
 had diged themselves down in front of each other
 and in some places, there was only hundred meters
 to the trenches of the enemy
 here is a letter
 from a private English soldier
 
 When the night comes
 the canons are silent
 we can often hear
 the Germans coughing, like us
 from the mud in the trenches
 especially now that it is Christmas
 everyone is longing for their home
 from each side
 of no man's land
 
 Christmas eve
 when the twilight came
 with frozen dew for the dead
 we heard
 the Germans singing
 from the holes of the grenades
 it sounded so beautiful and
 I will never forget
 "stille nacht" in the darkness
 above no man's land
 
 We clapped our hands
 and shouted for more
 "oh tandenbaum" we heard
 then we sang
 "oh come all ye fateful"
 and answered deeply affected
 we shouted "Merry Christmas"
 and from a German officer
 it sounded
 "hey Tommy, lets meet
 out in no man's land
 
 reluctantly, slowly
 and with a hammering pulse
 we laid down our arms
 met with the Germans, talked and smoked
 shared each others hoping
 against orders about firing
 we got a deal fixed
 aim as high as you dare
 above no man's land.
 
 We met again first day of Christmas
 buried the dead
 the earth was hard,
 frozen and kold
 the souls was soft
 It was as if we heard a voice
 2000 years away
 from Bethlehem to Flandern
 in the middle of no man's land
 from Bethlehem to Flandern
 in the midle of no man's land
 
 Of course the truce couldn't last
 When the supreme command
 who sat far away from the front
 heard the rumors, all friendly association with the enemy
 was put on pair with deserting
 and punished by death.
 and before the Christmas had ended
 the soldiers on each side of the front,
 was forced to attack
 An attack through barbed wire and grenade holes
 to kill
 or to be killed
 in no man's land
 
 Oh man Jesus is awesome and oh my the Devil is bad, oh how sweet it is that we will never die, but be with you Jesus through eternity, hallelujah!!!
 |  | Agapetos Registered user
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 | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 7:18 am: |      | 
 Thank you so much, Mwh.  It's very moving.
 
 There are only a very few English errors... it is very, very good.
 
 The part about "grenade holes" ... does it mean "foxholes"? (A foxhole is a small hole that a soldier digs and takes shelter in, but not as big or long as a "trench")... or is it referring to the craters made in the ground by grenades?
 |  | Mwh Registered user
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 | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 3:08 pm: |      | 
 I would think that it refers to the craters.
 |  | Dennis Registered user
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 | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 4:47 pm: |      | 
 Mwh,
 
 Thanks for sharing that story from the battlefield during WW I.  This reveals anew how tragic and foolish war can be.
 
 Dennis Fischer
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