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Grace_alone
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Username: Grace_alone
Post Number: 73
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 2:45 pm: |     |
Belvalew, I loved that! What a great way to put it.
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Flyinglady
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Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 2681
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 5:26 pm: | |
Belva,
I always like how you put things. That is goodl
Diana |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 4344
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:30 pm: | |
Ha! Good to hear from you, Belva! I love your example.
Hope your ankle is healing well...
Colleen |
Zjason
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Username: Zjason
Post Number: 44
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 4:07 pm: | |
I've brought this tithing issue up with my better half before. Her response is "well, how does the pastor get paid in the other denominations? If the local congregation doesn't agree with what he is preaching, don't they stop supporting him?"
I wasn't certain how to answer.
I understand the pastor in SDA land gets paid a nominal salary from the tithe pool. How does it work in other denominational circles? Any thoughts?
Jason |
Raven
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Username: Raven
Post Number: 519
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 6:10 pm: | |
In our church, all of the money coming in is called offerings, not tithe. The pastor gets paid out of those offerings - it doesn't first get sent to headquarters and then some funneled back to pay the pastor like the SDA church does. Once a year for planning purposes, everyone is supposed to fill out a pledge of what they plan to give for the year. I would assume if someone can't stick to their pledge it wouldn't be enforced, but I think the way our church does it is not unusual. |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 4347
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 6:59 pm: | |
At our church, also, all offerings are called "offerings". The church budget is based uppon the previous years' growth and needs. The pastors salaries and benefits are line items on the budget along with line items for all the internal ministries, missions, etc.
No one signs pledges, but the money does come in. There is a strong feeling among the members of being part of the church and of being part of the "team".
If someone were to dislike a pastor, the giving would not decrease. Since there are several pastors and pastoral salaries are a collective line item, stopping giving wouldn't help the cause of someone who was unhappy at all. Rather, if there are concerns, they would go to the governing board of elders. The elders, who are elected by the congregation for three years at a time and required to take a break from the board after serving six years, do the hiring and firing.
Colleen |
Snaggle
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Username: Snaggle
Post Number: 4
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 3:21 pm: | |
The best essay that I have come across on tithing as being unscriptural is this one:
http://bible-truths.com/tithing.html
Very detailed and informative. The church really has a conflict of interest in teaching us about tithing and I think we need to find these things out for ourselves.
- Mike |
Flyinglady
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Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 2689
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 6:10 pm: | |
Thank you Mike. That was very informative. I discussed with my pastor about tithing. He tithes, but does not preach it. I told him I do not, but give as God impresses me to give.
Diana |
Russkellyphd
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Username: Russkellyphd
Post Number: 12
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 7:45 pm: | |
MWH
Thanks for mentioning my web site. Flying lady is also familiar with it. I did my PHD on tithing and am also a former SDA pastor who posts on this site. The current Proclamaion has one of my articles. My 16 point tithing essay is condensed from my 288 page book. See www.shouldthechurchteachtithing.com for a free download. I am always eager to answer questions. |
Mwh
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Username: Mwh
Post Number: 104
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 2:49 am: | |
Russkellyphd, great, I'm studying your work at the moment!
Most Christians here in Alicante/Spain belive in tithing in some way or another and I'm trying to spread the word about your study to the ministers and laymen.
Is your work available in Spanish? It would be soo nice
Have a nice day everybody! |
Russkellyphd
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Username: Russkellyphd
Post Number: 13
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 6:35 pm: | |
MWH
My book is available in Polish and the essay is in Portugese. You are welcome to translate it into Spanish. Let me know. The essay would be a good starting poing. |
Susan_2
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Username: Susan_2
Post Number: 2250
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:57 pm: | |
I had one church where I attended have a box in the narthax for donations. The paster told me the church got a lot more money that was then from a traditional offering. I think it has a lot to do with psychology. a box in the back puts no pressure emotionally for a person to give. An offering plate going past in front of your face implys loud and clear to put the money in the plate. i do not put offerings in an offering plate. It seems abhorrant to me. I mail in money orders or I drop of offerings at the church office during the week. |
Violet
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Username: Violet
Post Number: 458
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 7:14 pm: | |
I have started reading the essay sited above. I have to say I have never thought about this in such detail. I will keep reading.... |
Mwh
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Username: Mwh
Post Number: 108
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 4:30 am: | |
Russkellyphd, okay, i'll try to see if I can find some time for the translation, I will certainly translate it (the essay) to Danish at some point, thats my native language, my Spanish is still a bit shaky. |
