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| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 154 Registered: 11-2005 |
This is what Ellen White claims the Lord showed her:
And this is what the disciple John said the Lord showed him:
It would be interesting if National Geographic would ask Doug Bachelor how John said that the Lord showed him that there was no temple in Heaven, while Ellen White said the Lord showed her that there was. Gilbert | ||
| Lynne Registered user Username: Lynne Post Number: 302 Registered: 10-2005 |
I think we know what the unusual spirit was. Lynne | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 593 Registered: 4-2000  |
Gilbert, Thanks for sharing another EGW contradiction to Scripture. Indeed, Revelation 21:22 could not be clearer. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 160 Registered: 11-2005 |
Here is a most interesting response that I just received from this post:
Gilbert | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 162 Registered: 11-2005 |
I have been struggling with how to reply to the response posted above in a spirit of love. I sense from the writer a deep feeling of panic at even entertaining the thought that somehow the points made in that last paragraph might not actually be the case. It is as though the writer has staked their entire religious experience on this specific understanding. I have many dear Seventh-day Adventist friends who are enslaved to this same understanding. Clearly they don't identify their organizational heritage as one of partnering, and working together, with the larger Body of Christ to fulfil the Gospel commission. It is so sad. Do any of you have any thoughts on how to even begin a Spirit-lead dialog that would bring the writer to an understanding of the good news of the gospel as presented in the Bible? Gilbert | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3418 Registered: 12-2003  |
Gilbert, I don't know any way to have a productive dialogue with a person such as the one who wrote the above post. Unless they are open to knowing Biblical truth, their loyalty to Ellen White will obscure reality. Sigh. Colleen | ||
| Patriar Registered user Username: Patriar Post Number: 213 Registered: 3-2005 |
Gilbert: Colleen is right. It is only by the work of the Spirit that a heart that closed and veiled will be able to see Truth. That kind of intellectual dishonesty is painful, I know. But we will pray and in God's timing, all He intends will be accomplished. I would suggest a simple 'thank you' for taking the time to respond to that person. Debate will get you nowhere...I am speaking from experience unfortunately. I believe the most powerful witness is that of a changed life. Patria | ||
| Brian3 Registered user Username: Brian3 Post Number: 33 Registered: 8-2005 |
"To adopt the line of reasoning the sources you quote from use, would appear to destroy the application of the Day of Atonement service to the time period beginning in 1844. This would remove any purpose of existence for Seventh-day Adventists, and it will ultimately eliminate any significant meaning for the Sabbath as the Seal of God in the last struggle of the issues described in Revelation 13." BINGO! We have a winner! | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 1101 Registered: 10-2004  |
Hehe, I was thinking along those same lines, Brian3. When I read that, I thought, "Exactly!" It seems that the person who wrote that thinks that Adventism just can't be wrong! It's pretty sad, actually. I also noticed that they think they "know" that Paul wrote the book of Hebrews--since EGW says he did. But Hebrews 2:3 seems to indicate that Paul did not write the book, since Paul says that he got his gospel directly from Jesus and not from people. "how will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation? After it was at the first spoken through the Lord, it was confirmed to us by those who heard," (Hebrews 2:3 NASB.) Compare that to what Paul said: "For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ." (Galatians 1:11-12 NASB.) Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on February 21, 2006) |
