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| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2005 |
Colleen had an article in the recent Proclamation that really caught my attention. Being a musician, it was especially signficant to me, I suppose. This article was on the doctoring of hymns for the 1941 SDA hymnal. When I read it, I became angry all over again. As a musician for the mainstream churches, I was aware that the words were different for many hymns in mainstream Protestantism, but it took Colleen's article to put it all together for me: The SDA committee systematically altered all of the hymns in the 1941 hymnal to exclude any references to the divinity of Christ or to the Trinity. Can there be any doubt of the Arian origins of SDAism as it dominated SDA theology as reflected in their hymns as late as the last part of the 20th century? I don't want to steal Colleen's thunder, and I refer you all to her article. But as this is only a single magazine article, I believe that this was only the tip of the iceberg. I have been doing my own research and I would like to post my findings here. I will list the hymns one at a time. Feel free to add to the list. | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2005 |
Hark the Herald Angels Sing This is a very blatant doctoring. Original words (Second Verse) Christ, the everlasting Lord. Late in time behold Him come Offspring of the Virgin's womb. Veiled in flesh the Godhead see Hail! the Incarnate Deity Born as man with men to dwell, Jesus, our Emmanuel. Hark, the herald angels sing, "Glory to the newborn King." SDA doctored words: Christ, the everlasting Lord. In the manger born a King While adoring angels sing, "Peace on earth to men good will; Bid the trembling soul be still; Christ on earth has come to dwell, Jesus our Emmanuel." Hark the herald angels sing: "Glory to the new-born King." Note the reference to Christ's divinity is totally eliminated. More to follow. | ||
| Carol_2 Registered user Username: Carol_2 Post Number: 320 Registered: 2-2002  |
Welcome Dr. Patti! So glad to see you on this site. I very much enjoy reading your posts on CARM, and often wondered if you would join us here! Look forward to hearing more from you, and again, a warm welcome! | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2005 |
Thank you for the warm welcome, Carol! Patti | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1489 Registered: 3-2004  |
Welcome to FAF Drpatti. I have, also, read some of your posts on CARM. I look forward to hearing more from you. I am always amazed at how adventism has changed words, thoughts about the trinity and the divinity of Jesus. I did not realize it until I left adventism. But, what can one do who does not know Christ as a personal Savior and has on their EGW lens. All I can do is pray for them, that they will lose the lens and let God, through the Holy Spirit teach them. Praise God, He is so awesome. Diana | ||
| Dd Registered user Username: Dd Post Number: 442 Registered: 7-2004 |
Good to see you here Dr. Patti. Thanks for joining us. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 1957 Registered: 12-2003  |
Hi, Patti! It's great to see you here again!! Welcome. Colleen | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 384 Registered: 4-2000  |
A hearty FAF welcome, Dr. Patti! I am delighted that you joined us in our cyber cafe. Dennis J. Fischer | ||
| Raven Registered user Username: Raven Post Number: 245 Registered: 7-2004  |
The 1941 SDA version of Hark the Herald Angels Sing is still the same in the current SDA hymnal--I checked it out on the online Digital Hymnal. At first, I couldn't figure out what the big deal was, because I thought every church changed hymns around and I really thought I remembered hearing that song sung with "Peace on Earth..." in a movie before. Apparently, I was wrong. I researched it on the web, and the only ones with "Peace on Earth" in "Hark the Herald Angels" were SDA websites. All the other numerous websites I checked, across many types, all had the song in its original form with Veiled in flesh the Godhead see Hail! the Incarnate Deity, which I don't recall ever hearing or noticing before. Keep them coming, Dr. Patti! My Lutheran m-i-l enjoyed Colleen's article, and was interested in seeing a more complete list. | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 657 Registered: 10-2004  |
Not only have they eliminated the reference to Jesus' divinity, they have also eliminated any reference to His humanity! They changed the line: "Born as man with men to dwell, Jesus, our Emmanuel." By the way, the first verse of the song does say "Peace on earth" (in all versions). I discovered recently that Rock of Ages has been totally mutilated also, in the SDA hymnal, according to the SDA Digital Hymnal site. The entire 3rd verse is missing. Here are the words to it, according to cyberhymnal.org: "Nothing in my hand I bring, Simply to the cross I cling; Naked, come to Thee for dress; Helpless look to Thee for grace; Foul, I to the fountain fly; Wash me, Savior, or I die." And the last verse (which should be the 4th but is the 3rd in the SDA hymnal) reads the following at cyberhymnal.org: "While I draw this fleeting breath, When mine eyes shall close in death, [originally When my eye-strings break in death] When I soar to worlds unknown, See Thee on Thy judgment throne, Rock of Ages, cleft for me, Let me hide myself in Thee." Of course they can't have us soaring at the time of death (even though Psalm 90:10 says "we fly away" when we die), so they changed the verse to read: "When my pilgrimage I close, Victor o'er the last of foes, When I soar to worlds unknown, and behold Thee on Thy throne, Rock of Ages, cleft for me, let me hide myself in Thee." Notice also, that they left out the word "judgment" before "throne"! Perhaps this is because they believe we are judged before the Resurrection (which they added into the song) in the Investigative Judgment? Jeremy | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 375 Registered: 5-2002 |
Dr. Patti, so very glad to see you here! | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2005 |
Thank you all for your kind welcome! And thank you for your participation. It makes me angry because they used the great hymns of the faith to further brainwash us. It is unconscionable. It would have been more honest, IMO, had they merely written their own hymns and never used others. Crown Him with Many Crowns Here is another one, one that was actually given as an example by an SDA defender. He had not done his homework, though, because it was altered by completely leaving out two verses. Here are the verses that were eliminated. And sure enough, the pattern continues; both of them refer to the divinity of Jesus Christ: Crown him the virgin's Son, the God incarnate born, whose arm those crimson trophies won which now His brow adorn; fruit of the mystic rose, as of that rose the stem; the root whence mercy ever flows, the Babe of Bethlehem. Crown him the Son of God, before the worlds began. and ye who tread where he hath trod, crown him the Son of Man; who every grief hath known that wrings the human breast, and takes and bears them for His own, that all in him may rest. To be continued | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2005 |
Here is another one that has been altered to fit the doctrine of soul sleep. We Would See Jesus Original lyrics We would see Jesus; other lights are paling, Which for long years we have rejoiced to see; The blessings of our pilgrimage are failing; We would not mourn them, for we go to Thee. SDA doctored lyrics We would see Jesus; other lights are paling, Which for long years we have rejoiced to see; The blessings of our pilgrimage are failing; We would not mourn them, in exchange for Thee. __________________________ BTW, Jeremy, that butchering of "Rock of Ages" really gets my goat! | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2005 |
When Morning Gilds the Skies To God, the Word, on high, the host of angels cry, May Jesus Christ be praised! Let mortals, too, upraise their voice in hymns of praise, May Jesus Christ be praised! SDA doctored version This verse has been eliminated. | ||
| Dennisrainwater Registered user Username: Dennisrainwater Post Number: 117 Registered: 8-2000 |
Patti-- Thank you for providing this material. It is very revealing, and I have been looking for such a resource. I thank you. And it is so good to see you back here again after such a very long absence! Thank you again for the helpful info. Only by Grace, Den <>< | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 1961 Registered: 12-2003 |
The song "My Soul Be On Thy Guard" has these changes in the SDA hymnbook: Verse 3, lines 3 and 4 read like this in the original hymn: The work of faith will not be done, Till thou obtain the crown. Both version of the SDA hymnal change "work of Faith" in line 3 to "arduous task". Verse four (following) is deleted in the SDA hymnal: Fight on, my soul, till death Shall bring thee to thy God; He'll take thee, at thy parting breath, To His divine abode. In "Faith Is The victory" (words by Yohn Yates, Music by Ira Sankey), verse two is omitted from the SDA hymnal: His banner over us is love, Our sword the Word of God. We tread the road the saints above With shouts of triumph trod. by faith, they like a whilrlwind's breath, Swept on o'er every field. The faith by which they conquered death Is still our shining shield. The last verse has one change in the SDA hymnal. It's subtle but heretical. Here's the original verse: To him that overcomes the foe,k White raiment shall be giv'n. Before the angels he shall know His name confessed in Heav'n. Then onward from the hill of light, Our hearts with love aflame, We'll vanquish all the hosts of night,k In Jesus' conqu'ring Name. In the fourth from the last line, "hill of light" has been changed in the SDA hymnal to "HILLS of light". The original "hill of light" is a reference to Calvary. Changing "hill" to "hills" completely changes and denatures the meaning. I thought this was also a heinous omission: The fourth verse of "When I Survey the Wondrouw Cross" is omitted from both versions of the SDA hymnal: His dying crimson, like a robe, Spreads o'er His body on the tree; Then I am dead to all the globe, And all the globe is dead to me. Adventist really do downplay the blood of Jesus. Ironically, it seems they downplay it more today than they did even 40-50 years ago. More to come... Colleen | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 1962 Registered: 12-2003 |
In "Alas! And Did My Savior Bleed?" (words by Isaac Watts), the second verse is omitted in both version of the SDA hymnal: Thy body slain, sweet Jesus, thineó And bathed in its own bloodó While the firm mark of wrath divine, His Soul in anguish stood. Adventists are not only uncomfortable with the focus of the blood of Jesus, but they cannot talk about the wrath of God. God is love, they say--he "would never" punish people in eternal hell. I've heard Dan Smith, pastor at La Sierra U. church, say that Jesus did not suffer the wrath of God. Here's what I thought was very telling: the following verses of "Alas! And Did My Savior Bleed" were INCLUDED in the 1941 edition of the hymnal, but they are DELETED in the 1985 version: Well might the sun in darkness hide And shut his glories in, When Christ, the mighty Maker died, For man the creature's sin. Thus might I hide my blushing face While His dear cross appears, Dissolve my heart in thankfulness, And melt my eyes to tears. Talk about eliminating focus on Jesus' sacrifice! Again, the omission of the following verse of "The Old Rugged Cross", included in the 1941 hymnal but omitted from the 1985, veils the cross: In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine, A wondrous beauty I see, For 'twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died, To pardon and sanctify me. Here are a couple of hymns with changes that completely eliminate Adventism from the historic tradition of the Christian church. Apparently, since the "true church" didn't originate until the mid-1840's, they don't claim to carry the heritage of the historic church. In "For All the Saints" the following verses are omitted from both versions of the SDA hymnal: For the apostles' glorious company, who bearing forth the cross o'er land and sea, shook all the mighty world, we sing to Thee: Alleluia, Alleluia! For the Evangelists, by whose blest word, like fourfold streams, the garden of the Lord, is fair and fruitful, be thy Name adored. Alleluia, Alleluia. For Martyrs, who with rapture kindled eye, saw the bright crown descending from the sky, and seeing, grasped it, thee we glorify. Alleluia, Alleluia! The golden evening brightens in the west; soon, soon to faithful warriors comes their rest;sweet is the calm of paradise the blessed. Alleluia, Alleluia! The following change I thought was very significant. Adventists do NOT identify with the heresies and contending for the truth that the historic church experienced, not do they see themselves as prone to "heresies" or "schisms". In "The Church Has One Foundation", the following changes are in the 1985 (and also, I think the 1941) hymnal in verse three: Original: Though with a scornful wonder, Men see her sore oppressed, By schism rent assunder, by heresies distressed, Yet saints their watch are keeping; their cry goes up, "how long?" And soon the night of weeping shall be the morn of song. Notice these changes in lines 2 and 3 in the SDA hymnal: Line 2: "Though foes would rend asunder the Rock where she doth rest, Yet saints their FAITH [instead of watch] are keeping; etc. I was quite stunned to see how deliberately the SDA hymnal refused to identify with the historic church--yet it's logical. I believe this refusal is related to the ADventist's lack of emphasis and even understanding of Pentecost. Amazing. Looking foward to more of your discoveries, Patti... Colleen | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2005 |
Thanks, Colleen! Thank you for starting this, and thank you for your additions. Another one: Joy to the World In the SDA rendition of "Joy to the World," the Incarnation is completely written out, and it changes the whole focus to the future rather than the accomplished work of Jesus Christ. It is not even published in the "Christmas" section, but under "Second Coming." Although there is nothing wrong with focusing on the Second Coming, I believe SDAism does it to the virtual exclusion of the first. IOW, it does not exult in the accomplished work of Jesus Christ but, for them, the jury is still out. They look forward with no small bit of trepidation to what is going to happen next. It also denies that Christ has come into His Kingdom and is reigning over all of the universe NOW. Joy to the world, the Lord is come! Let earth receive her King; Let every heart prepare Him room, And Heaven and nature sing, etc. Joy to the world, the Savior reigns! Let men their songs employ; While fields and floods, rocks, hills and plains Repeat the sounding joy, etc. He rules the world with truth and grace, And makes the nations prove The glories of His righteousness, And wonders of His love, etc. SDA doctored version: Let earth receive her King; Let every heart prepare Him room, And Heaven and nature sing, etc. Joy to the world, the Lord will reign! Let men their songs employ; While fields and floods, rocks, hills and plains Repeat the sounding joy, etc. Soon He will rule the earth with grace, And make the nations prove The glories of His righteousness, And wonders of His love, etc. | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2005 |
Colleen, I have a question for you. You mentioned "Standing on the Promises" in your magazine article. Of course, it is not even in the Hymnal. But I know it was in one of the publications, perhaps "The Gospel in Song"? Because I remember singing it, and I distinctly remember it saying: "Standing on the promises I cannot fail. Trusting in my Savior as my all in all." Because I remember thinking "Why didn't they just changed the word to 'fall' so that the poem will rhyme"? Is my memory faulty? Is this your recollection? Does anyone else remember this? It is obvious to me now why they would not want to use the expression "cannot fall." Sigh... A people kept in the bondage of guilt and uncertainty is a people whose pocket books open easily. | ||
| Drpatti Registered user Username: Drpatti Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2005 |
O Could I Speak the Matchless Worth O could I speak the matchless worth, O could I sound the glories forth Which in my Saviour shine! I'd sing His glorious righteousness, And magnify the wondrous grace Which made salvation mine. SDA Doctored Version: O could I speak the matchless worth, O could I sound the glories forth Which in my Saviour shine! I'd soar and touch the heavenly strings, And vie with Gabriel as he sings In notes almost divine. Why did they not want people to know that salvation can be theirs? |
