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Goldenbear Registered user Username: Goldenbear
Post Number: 42 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 7:33 am: | |
I have a friend that refered to non-SDA students in SDA schools as "future adventist". how about... Red books - - - Whether they are red or not books by ellen white The shaking --- This term is used anytime a member leaves the church for any reason. Term has very negative impact within the church. The testimonies - - Basically, 9 books of gossip written under the guise of spiritual guidance. |
Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 280 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 8:36 am: | |
Also, as was mentioned on that other thread: "investment" and "13th Sabbath." Also, "investiture," Pathfinders, Sabbath School/SS, "quarterly," and "guarding the edges of the Sabbath." I liked PraiseGod's definition of "the world." Babylon = the Catholic church and "apostate Prostestantism" (all "Sunday" churches; also called "nominal churches") Jeremy |
Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 281 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 8:42 am: | |
Oh! "Communion" (also called "the ordinance of humility") also has a different definition to SDAs. It includes "footwashing." Jeremy |
Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2
Post Number: 1376 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 8:57 am: | |
One more I can think of. "The rest of the gosple". I had a SDA lady recently tell me she wittnesses to the women at the community Christian Women's Association "of the rest of the gosple". I asked her what that ment. She then told me, "Well, all those women have is Jesus. I bring the rest of the gosple to them." I asked her what that ment and she answered, "the health message, The Spirit of Prophecy, the Sabbath, the truth on the state of the dead. You know, the rest of the gosple that they are ignorant of". In other words, the rest of the gosple is all the SDA teachings that people who only have Jesus don't know about. I just don't think SDA's understand the meaning of the word "gosple". Maybe someone on here can give a SDA meaning of the word "gosple". I gave the meaning for the words "the rest of the gosple". |
Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 283 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 9:06 am: | |
I think the gospel usually means the whole entire "Adventist message." There's another SDA term: "The Message" (and it does not mean a paraphrase of the Bible ;-)) Oh, that reminds me: "The Clear Word" Wow, there are so many! This "SDA dictionary" might be almost as large as Webster's! ;-) Also, I may have been incorrect in saying that "communion" is also called "the ordinance of humility." Looking at Google, it looks like "the ordinance of humility" refers to the "footwashing" only. Jeremy |
Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 943 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 10:39 am: | |
Like some of you I was not aware of the differences in the way SDAs and Christians use words until I gave up EGW and started reading my Bible and joining this forum. Gospel: the Sabbath message, after all if SDAs did not have the Sabbath, how could the SDAs be the remnant church. Then there is all the rest such as tithe paying, EGW, IJ, "health message", etc, etc. Christian: SDA version-thinking they can be perfect and believe and try to practice all the above without God and the Holy Spirit. With all this talk I am again reminded how awesome God is. Diana |
Insideoutsider Registered user Username: Insideoutsider
Post Number: 29 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 10:40 am: | |
Did anyone mention the "Right arm of the message", which gives any form of medical work importance? The other day I was reading an article written by someone at LLU that said Jesus told us that we were to go out to teach and heal. The scripture given was the great commission in Matthew 28:19,20. I said to my husband "Did Jesus really tell us to heal, or is that from EGW?". I looked it up, and it only said teach (the Gospel). Than I got out my Strongs and looked up all Jesus said about healing, and all that I could find was when he commissioned the deciples to go out (twice) and then the emphasis seemed to be the casting out of demons. Am I missing something? Those of you that are better Bible scholars than I may be able to answer that. All these years I thought Jesus favored medical work above many other vocations, now I believe that was a denominational thing! |
Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 945 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 11:03 am: | |
Growing up SDA I was brought up to "know" that the medical work is important. That is why I became a therapist and went to LLU. "That is what God wanted." I put it in quotes because I am learning what God wants is not always what the SDAs told me He wants. "What God wants" should also go in the dictionary with the definition of doing what the SDA church/EGW says is the right thing to do. This reminds me of my son, who when he learned to read learned to love the military. When he was about 11/12 he asked me why God gave him such interests, the military and flying. My reply was very non-SDA because I told him I did not know and that he should talk to God about it. He did and he is not an Air Force officer. If I had been a "good SDA" I would have discourgaed him about being military and probably ruined my relationship with him. Another "whoa moment". God put those words in my mouth. He shows me every day how awesome he is. Diana |
Tracey Registered user Username: Tracey
Post Number: 150 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 12:08 pm: | |
Diana, That's very interesting about your son. Insideoutsider, I am not SDA, but I love someone who says he isn't but attends SDA. He is a physician. I wasn't aware of the medical profession being so important in SDA life. I am only one person who has only been taught about Jesus, but I can say of all the bible conferences, churches, and fellowships that I have visited in my life, Jesus favoring a vocation was never taught or even a real idea. In fact, wouldn't he favor a builder, masonry or carpentry first? haha! It seems to be such a goofy idea to even worry about what profession Jesus likes best, doesn't it? But circular motions just to prove Adventism knows best, I suppose. <sigh> But God is still on the throne!
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Jeannette Registered user Username: Jeannette
Post Number: 81 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 1:26 pm: | |
One reason why med careers are pushed is so when persecution starts you won't have to worry about a job, another reason is so that you can work on the sabbath hours and not feel guilty that you are breaking the sabbath. |
Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 947 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 2:00 pm: | |
Tracey, When I wrote about my son above, I did not proof read it well enough. It should say he is NOW AN AIR FORCE OFFICER, not "not an AF officer." From what I have read in the Bible I cannot fined any profession Jesus preferred above another. All He wants is that in what ever we choose to do that we follow Him. Diana |
Windmotion Registered user Username: Windmotion
Post Number: 95 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 3:09 pm: | |
Here is a term + definition I have come across -- to "overcome" or "get the victory over" a certain sin in your life is to refrain from doing a certain activity (such as watching "Friends" or going to the movie theater) for a period of time by the supreme force of your own willpower. On that thought I guess your "guardian angel" would be an angel that watches over you and protects you as long as you are following all the SDA rules. Hehe this is fun, although I think it has devolved a bit from its original intent. --Hannah |
Ric_b Registered user Username: Ric_b
Post Number: 189 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 3:11 pm: | |
Jeannette, I always found it a little ironic that a number of SDAs with medical careers specifically chose to work weekend hours, and in some cases only worked weekends because the weekend shifts paid better. Or chose those hours to simplifying daycare issues. |
Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2
Post Number: 1379 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 4:09 pm: | |
Insideroutsider, I will get out the Strong's later and look up th specfic text but Jesus did to go out and heal the sick, cast out demons and forgive sins. This is one more time when I get really irritated with the SDA's in my life. The really like to put down Christians that practice the forgiveness of sins. Our priest every Sunday says, "...as a called and ordained minister of the Church of Christ, and by His authority, I terefore declair to ou thhe entire forgveness of all your sins, in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit". We make the holy sign of the cross and a profound wave of content comes over me. Those words are takefrom the Lutheran Book of Worship, page 56. Oh, before the minister says the words I quoted above the congreation in unison says, "we confess that we are in bondage to sin and cannot free ourselves. We have sinned aginst you in thought, word, and deed, by what we have done and by what we have left undone. We have not loved you with our whole heart; we have not loved our neighbor as ourselves. For the sake of your Son, Jesus Christ, have mercy on us. Forgive us, renew us, and heal us so that we may delight in your will and walk in your ways to the glory of your body. Amen." That about sums it up. My SDA kin though say that then the minister is doing the forgivng. But, Jesus tells his deciples to go out and forgive the sins of the sinners. I guess it is just a concept that they don't understand. But, it comes stright from Jesus himself. Ric, aren't you the one on here who was raised Lutheran? Do you remember the words I quoted above? |
Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 287 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 8:21 pm: | |
Another term/definition: "the Lord's work"/"God's work" = Advancing the SDA cause. Jeremy |
Ric_b Registered user Username: Ric_b
Post Number: 190 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 8:55 pm: | |
Susan, Yes I know it. I can probably still recite all of the liturgy by heart. Although it throws me when we attend my parents WELS church because they have a slightly different liturgy. I think I know what will be next, and I'm wrong! |
Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 953 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 1:09 pm: | |
Another SDA term for the dictionary: Non combatant/conscientious objector-one who will not carry a gun to fight for his country, but will let others fight so he/she can enjoy freedom of religion. Diana |
Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2
Post Number: 1383 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 2:13 pm: | |
Ric, In the ElCA in the ApostlesCreed we say, "the holy catholic church". At the Missouri Synod church when we recite the Apostles Creed we say, "the holy Christian church". In the SDA we are not allowed to recite the Aostles Creed. Does anyone on here know the reason the SDA's shun the Christian creeds of faith? Hannah, I was raised to believe that our guardian angels will not accompany anyone into movie theatres, bowling alleys, etc., and especially nightclubs where drinking and dancing are going on. The DA's teach a very limited responsibility for the angels. |
Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 1289 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 8:49 pm: | |
Great terms and defintions, everyone! I'm diligently copying them into the "vocabulary document"! I would never think of all the ones you've already mentioned--especially the noncombatant/CO term. Thanks! (This IS fun!) Colleen |
Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2
Post Number: 1386 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:19 pm: | |
Don't forget EGW's term, "self abuse". It only referrs to masterbation. In my psychology classes at college the term "self abuse" ment just that, someone who hurt themselves. |