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Asurprise
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Username: Asurprise
Post Number: 2503
Registered: 7-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 12:45 pm: |     |
Joseph Smith died in June 1944. He wrote quite a bit about probation. It's creepy how it seems as if the mantle from some evil spirit, went from J.S. to EGW. (I have a copy of the book of mormon because I have some relatives who are mormon - just in case I can point out something to them to show them that J.S. was a false prophet.)
Here's some "verses" from the book of mormon:
"Be wise in the days of your probation; strip yourselves of all uncleanness..." mormon 9:28
"...nevertheless there was a space granted unto man in which he might repent; therefore this life became a probationary state; a time to prepare to meet God..." alma 12:24
"But behold, your days of probation are past; ye have procrastinated the day of your salvation until it is everlastingly too late..." helaman 13:38
Everybody who's been an SDA used to believe in "probation." It's creepy how this doctrine went from the LDS to the SDA. |
Ric_b
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Username: Ric_b
Post Number: 1709
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 1:43 pm: | |
Maybe Ellen got a "double share" of Joseph's spirit. |
Mjcmcook
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Username: Mjcmcook
Post Number: 421
Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 3:34 pm: | |
Actually, Joseph Smith was running for the Presidency of the United states when he was killed
on~~June 27, 1844~(not 1944)
Interesting information
about him can be found on
Wikipedia !! Who knew?!
~mj~ |
Asurprise
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Post Number: 2504
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 8:23 pm: | |
Oops, I meant 1844! Thanks mj! 
Ric, perhaps she did because she lived twice as long, since she wasn't shot trying to escape from jail! |
Colleentinker
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Post Number: 13527
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2012 - 11:08 pm: | |
So I just learned that 1844 is an important date not only for Adventists but for JWs and Mormons as well. The following is from Conservapedia:
quote:When even 1844 did not pan out, some of Miller's followers abandoned the movement. Many, however, tried to find a new explanation…Another group that tried to hold to the 1844 date was led by Jonas Swendahl and was known as the Second Adventists. They believed that 1844 marked not the date of Jesus' return, but of the beginning of the last generation. Swdnahl taught that Jesus would therefore return in 1874…
One of Swendahl's followers was a former Presbyterian names Charles Taze Russell [who founded the JWs]. When 1874 came and went, he concluded 30 years was not long enough for a generation. So he added 70 years to 1844 and concluded that Jesus would return in 1914.…
In MormonTruth.org "the best know of all prophecies" is known as "1844—Restoring the Rights of the Church." Strengthening the start date of the 2300 days in history has been made by certain Mormon eschatologists. …
2300 years from 457 BC…takes us to 1844. The belief in 1844 as a major date in prophecy has been incorporated into modern religions such as the Baha'i faith and the Seventh Day Adventists…
In 1844, Joseph Smith…completed his mortal mission…Like all those other martyrs spoken of in Revelation, he was slain for the word of god. All he had ever said was what he had seen with his own eyes, and they killed him for it.
Before the prophet Joseph died…he had two driving goals: First to ensure that the church had everything necessary to survive and prosper. Second, t ensure that the temple (then under construction) would be complete. He died only once he had completed his work.…The sanctuary had been cleansed. The prophecy was fulfilled.
I knew Joseph Smith died that years, but I did not realize Mormons considered the year prophetically significant. So the Baha'i, the Mormons, the JWs, the SDAs, and I understand also the theosophists all consider 1844 to be a prophetically significant day.
Isn't that just...hmmm....interesting?
Colleen |
Asurprise
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Post Number: 2506
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2012 - 12:25 pm: | |
I heard that Wikipedia is something that anybody can write on. What about Conservapedia? Because it's saying that Joseph Smith was killed because he only spoke of those things he'd seen. I heard that he was killed escaping from jail, and that rather than reporting things he'd seen, he had an occultic practice he engaged in by putting his face in a hat with two "seeing stones" in it to give him "supernatural revelation." (I also heard that before he started his religion, he was always searching for treasure using occultic methods. I guess he must have figured that wasn't working out as well as he'd hoped, so he must have decided that starting a religion would bring him plenty of money. For sure, he knows now the consequences of turning people away from God!) |
Nowisee
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Post Number: 1102
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 6:29 pm: | |
I think that was a quote from the Mormon site MormonTruth.org... |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 13536
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 9:58 pm: | |
Yes, Nowisee is right. That summary of Joseph Smith's prophetic work was taken from a Mormon site.
I'm just more and more aware of how cultic Adventism is. It really does share a lot of commonalities with Mormons and also with JWs.
It just masquerades itself as "Christian" more completely than the others do.
Colleen |
