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| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 13263 Registered: 12-2003  |
We've begun posting the commentary for the new quarter's Sabbath School lessons online at www.BibleStudiesforAdventists.com. The first lesson is entitled "The Triune God". Many of us have come to realize that the Adventist "trinity" is not the classic Christian Trinity, and SDA theologians support this conclusion. As late as the early 1900's, EGW was referring to "The Three Worthies of Heaven", etc. (Note that this was well after the Desire of Ages came out...) Jeremy Graham, who has authored the website www.CultorChristian.com, has written the brilliant commentary for the first week, and it is now online. I want to urge everyone to read it. It is detailed and well-documented, and it shows that Adventists believe not in monotheism, or One God, but in a tritheism...three individuals who comprise "God" collectively. You can find Jeremy's commentary (as well as the places where the next weeks' commentaries will also be) here:http://biblestudiesforadventists.com/2012/quarter1/index.html Colleen | ||
| Ric_b Registered user Username: Ric_b Post Number: 1440 Registered: 7-2004  |
Great job Jeremy! It may seem that you are majoring in minors to some who haven't really studied the Trinity and the historical heresies about the Trinity, but just like so many anti-Trinitarians of history the SDA church has rejected the doctrine. They are just more deceptive about it, since they use the word "Trinity" but change the meaning. It is is type of deception that, IMO, makes them so dangerous. | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 907 Registered: 8-2008 |
Good work Jeremy. This reminds me of why SDAs don't include the words "Veiled in flesh the Godhead see / Hail the incarnate Deity!" in "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing." In their view, the Godhead is composed of three separate gods, so the Godhead (literally, the divine nature) cannot be veiled in flesh in Jesus Christ, nor incarnate in Him. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 7534 Registered: 9-2006  |
Wow! I know I shouldn't be shocked after all this time at the subtle way Adventist use evangelical sounding words to hide their real doctrine. It still amazes me. | ||
| Alison1 Registered user Username: Alison1 Post Number: 109 Registered: 10-2010 |
Thanks Jeremy for the fantastic work. There are so many things that when I was in the Adventist Church that were never taught to me. Reading your site (and others who are former Adventists who have established sites as well) has been a real eye opener to me. The more I read and study this type of material the more and more I see the real truth of Adventism. And I find that adventism is totally dangerous to the christian community (as well as the other cultic groups such as Mormonism and JWs, etc.) I find it all very shocking and distasteful, too. But at the same time very revealing. I appreciate all the help that everyone here on FAF has given me in cutting all the ties with the Adventist church. It took me quite a while after I left the Adventist to really shake off all of their beliefs. I would say about three years. But coming to the FAF site was a great help. Thanks to all the people here as well as Colleen and Richard who established this site. I truly feel a real sense of freedom from any and every form of any religion that has ties with the Adventist Church. | ||
| Anewman Registered user Username: Anewman Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2011 |
Did you all notice the image on the new Quartely? It sure struck me as very "new age" or astrological? Very uncomfortable image in my opinion. | ||
| Lucybugg Registered user Username: Lucybugg Post Number: 307 Registered: 2-2007 |
My mom told this morning she is teaching the 4th lesson because it reminds her of me, and that she really needs me there that day as moral support. I don't think so.... | ||
| Nowisee Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 1034 Registered: 5-2009 |
I agree, Anewman, the art is creepy to me, also. Jesus looks like He's got horns, if you look @ the B&W version of it inside the quarterly cover. | ||
| Anewman Registered user Username: Anewman Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2011 |
I asked my SDA wife about it but she of course saw nothing unusual about it. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 13287 Registered: 12-2003 |
I know this probably sounds a bit "out there", but I believe the art on the cover is no accident—even though it may not have been "conscious". It reveals the heart of Adventism: they don't have the biblical Jesus or the biblical Trinity. Satan, not Jesus, is the final bearer of sin. All of these subtle but profound warps are revealed in the cover art. Colleen | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 2315 Registered: 7-2007 |
It's icky to me too! Yuck! I wonder who's face they put on the quarterly to represent God's face? (At least it looks to me like a photograph.) Anyway, the cover just looks evil to me - I don't know why. Reminds me of Satan masquerading as an angel of light, or something. | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 2316 Registered: 7-2007 |
An interesting thing happened in my transition from SDA to Christian. When I was an SDA, Heaven, to me was the fun place where one can fly and explore the universe. Now the BIGGEST ATTRACTION by far is God Himself!!!!!  | ||
| Mkfound Registered user Username: Mkfound Post Number: 169 Registered: 1-2011 |
Personally I've found that pictures of God the Father or Jesus bother me since leaving sdaism. Before, I thought they were quite alright, and enjoyed looking at them and imagining what God was like. The last one that really caught my eye was the one done by Nathan Greene, unveiled at the GC in 2010. You can see it here: http://www.nathangreene.com/fullsize/217/81 I saw that painting just a few weeks after my brother passed away, and I saved it on my desktop background and would look at it often, hoping that Jesus would come back as soon as possible, so we could be reunited. It was all I had, almost. And by August 2010, just two months later, I was no longer an adventist, by the grace of God. Suddenly that painting held no appeal to me. I had Jesus in the here and now, and knew that my brother was already with Jesus in Heaven, and the painting became distasteful to me. Since then, I can't put my finger on it, but all artwork with pictures of Jesus in them or Heaven even just bother me. Before, I could 'get inside' the painting, and imagine myself there, but that is dull and pointless for me now. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 9564 Registered: 3-2004  |
I do not know why but I have never liked pictures of Jesus. Not even when I was a "good" adventist. Like you Mkfound, I have Jesus 24/7 and do not need pictures of him. Diana | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 1735 Registered: 12-2007  |
The pictures I have seen of "Jesus" have made Him appear as weak, frail, and almost feminine. I am bothered by that. The Bible tells us that He was a carpenters son, He was used to hard physical labor. He also did a LOT of walking through rugged land , both would lead me to believe that He was most probably quite muscular and not the frail almost anorexic, sad faced man depicted in the pictures. I see Him in my minds eye with outstretched arms and a smile on His face, welcoming us home |
