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Philharris
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is much more in Colossians chapter three than the issue of worshiping on the Sabbath day versus worshiping Jesus Christ:

Beware of anyone carrying you captive through philosophy and empty deceitfulness along lines of human tradition and the world’s elementary principles and not according to Christ. (Col 2:8 MLB)

Things to beware of:

1. Philosophy based upon human tradition.

2. Physical circumcision.

3. Legal requirements of the Law.

4. Angel worship (those who claim an angelic guide).

5. Rules concerning what you eat and drink.

6. Rules about what religious holidays to abserve.

7. Assumed humility.

Fearless Phil
Colleentinker
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Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil, I have pondered these things, too. For example, Col 2:18-19 says this:

quote:

let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.




Isn't it amazing that Paul specifically mentions people "bragging" about vision they have and being puffed up "without reason by his [her] sensuous mind"?

Our particular cult was specifically warned against...

When I realize, more and more as time goes on, that my entire perception of "real" and "false" was upside down, I feel increasingly exercised about rescuing the deceived.

Colleen
Alison1
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Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't Ellen White have an angelic guide throughout her life?
Colleentinker
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Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 11:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

During her early years she had "visions" and even claimed to see "the lovely Jesus". She did have angels guiding her in some of those...and when she began having dreams instead of visions in her later life, that's when she said she had a handsome young man--angel--to guide her.

Colleen
Asurprise
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Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil; I was just noticing the verse you quoted and how it said world's elementary principles. It reminded me of a sermon I heard at a non-denomination Christian church where the pastor was preaching through the book of Galatians. (I've never heard an Adventist pastor preach through a book of the Bible. NO, an Adventist pastor jumps all over the Bible and Ellen White like a crazy jackrabbit!)

Anyway in Galatians 4, the pastor pointed out how the writer compared the way he (the apostle Paul) and the Galatians that he was writing to used to be (verse 3, in in bondage under the elements of the world and verse 9, to the weak and beggarly elements, before coming to Christ. (I'm looking at the NKJV. A newer translation might be clearer.)

The rest of that chapter is excellent how it says; verse 10-11 - You observe days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain. I also like how it compares to Old and New Covenants to Hagar and Sara. Hagar being the one from Mount Sinai - verses 21-31.

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