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Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris
Post Number: 2457 Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:48 am: | |
There is much more in Colossians chapter three than the issue of worshiping on the Sabbath day versus worshiping Jesus Christ: Beware of anyone carrying you captive through philosophy and empty deceitfulness along lines of human tradition and the world’s elementary principles and not according to Christ. (Col 2:8 MLB) Things to beware of: 1. Philosophy based upon human tradition. 2. Physical circumcision. 3. Legal requirements of the Law. 4. Angel worship (those who claim an angelic guide). 5. Rules concerning what you eat and drink. 6. Rules about what religious holidays to abserve. 7. Assumed humility. Fearless Phil |
Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 12584 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 4:37 pm: | |
Phil, I have pondered these things, too. For example, Col 2:18-19 says this: quote:let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.
Isn't it amazing that Paul specifically mentions people "bragging" about vision they have and being puffed up "without reason by his [her] sensuous mind"? Our particular cult was specifically warned against... When I realize, more and more as time goes on, that my entire perception of "real" and "false" was upside down, I feel increasingly exercised about rescuing the deceived. Colleen |
Alison1 Registered user Username: Alison1
Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2010
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 5:23 pm: | |
Didn't Ellen White have an angelic guide throughout her life? |
Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 12656 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 11:17 pm: | |
During her early years she had "visions" and even claimed to see "the lovely Jesus". She did have angels guiding her in some of those...and when she began having dreams instead of visions in her later life, that's when she said she had a handsome young man--angel--to guide her. Colleen |
Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise
Post Number: 1927 Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 1:24 pm: | |
Phil; I was just noticing the verse you quoted and how it said world's elementary principles. It reminded me of a sermon I heard at a non-denomination Christian church where the pastor was preaching through the book of Galatians. (I've never heard an Adventist pastor preach through a book of the Bible. NO, an Adventist pastor jumps all over the Bible and Ellen White like a crazy jackrabbit!) Anyway in Galatians 4, the pastor pointed out how the writer compared the way he (the apostle Paul) and the Galatians that he was writing to used to be (verse 3, in in bondage under the elements of the world and verse 9, to the weak and beggarly elements, before coming to Christ. (I'm looking at the NKJV. A newer translation might be clearer.) The rest of that chapter is excellent how it says; verse 10-11 - You observe days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain. I also like how it compares to Old and New Covenants to Hagar and Sara. Hagar being the one from Mount Sinai - verses 21-31. |
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