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| Gcfrankie Registered user Username: Gcfrankie Post Number: 782 Registered: 1-2007 |
I have started rereading 'The Life God Rewards' by Bruce Wilkinson. I had read it years ago while still an sda and talk about a veil over ones eyes. In the chapter, The Six Main Events of Your Forever Life he lists: 1. Life, you are created in the image of God. 2. Death, you die physically, but not spiritually. Just as birth is your brief entrance into life on earth, so the death of your body is your instantaneous exit. Yet since you are more than organic matter, your life as soul and spirit continues. Neither reincarnation nor "soul sleep" is taught in the Bible. Jesus revealed that after death your soul is either with God in heaven or apart from God in hell (Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians5:8. Both last forever. 3. Destination. You reach your destination after death, which is determined by what you believe on earth. 4. Resurrection. You recieve a resurrected body. 5. Repayment. You recieve your reward or your retribution for eternity based on what you did on earth. 6 Eternity. You will live forever in the presence or absence of God, reaping the consequences of your beliefs and actions on earth. What I found interesting is #2 where he mentions soul sleep, it is the only time I have heard it mentioned outside of the sda church. Gail | ||
| Free2dance Registered user Username: Free2dance Post Number: 242 Registered: 2-2010 |
On soul sleep, I found this webpage a while back. The format is messy on my computer for some reason (it may be a problem on my end), but the content I have seen so far is good. The writer takes you through the SDA soul sleep proof texts in both the OT and NT and places them in context. Here is the link if anyone is interested: http://gear.dyndns.org/~spencer/Apologetics/soulsleeprefutation.html | ||
| Gcfrankie Registered user Username: Gcfrankie Post Number: 783 Registered: 1-2007 |
Thank-you Free2dance for the link. It is quite lengthy so I will have to print it out. Gail | ||
| Jody Registered user Username: Jody Post Number: 105 Registered: 7-2007 |
I have a few questions: First what does anyone make of Acts 2:34? What does it men that David has not ascended into Heaven? Secondly in Eccl 12 it states that the spirit of man returns to God who gave it. Does that mean the just and the unjust?? | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 3610 Registered: 10-2004  |
The context of Acts 2:34 refers to physical resurrection and ascension. Ecclesiastes 12 does seem to refer to all men. God casts the unsaved into Hades when they die, and in the OT the saved were carried by the angels into the section of Hades known as "Abraham's Bosom" (see Luke 16). Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on March 03, 2011) | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 12312 Registered: 12-2003  |
I agree, Jeremy. God receives the spirits of all men, caring for them according to their belief or unbelief. The spirits of unbelievers are barred from spiritual fellowship with the Triune God...spirits of believers enjoy the care and the presence of God. Colleen | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1729 Registered: 7-2007 |
Jody; before Jesus died and rose, people didn't go yet to Heaven, but to "Abraham's bosom," if they were righteous. Remember Jesus' parable about the rich man and Lazeras? | ||
| Jody Registered user Username: Jody Post Number: 106 Registered: 7-2007 |
ok but where was Abraham's bosum? I nvr was too clear on that and i assume you are also referring to John chapter 3 when Jesus told Nicodemus that no one had yet gone to heaven? | ||
| Darrell Registered user Username: Darrell Post Number: 128 Registered: 10-1999 |
Here are a couple of verses that jumped out at me when I was reading yesterday. I never noticed this before. This is 1 Thes. 5:9-10 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. It struck me that Paul was talking about living or dying when he said "awake or asleep", and in both cases, we will live together with Him! | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 3627 Registered: 10-2004 |
Yes, and the literal Greek is even stronger:
Jeremy | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 12365 Registered: 12-2003 |
Darrell, that's awesome! I just can't get over how relieved I still feel to know that death is not non-existence, that when my body and spirit separate at death, I will be with Jesus and will know that I am with Him! Psalm 116:15:
How can the death of God's saints be precious to Him if they cease to exist? Colleen |
