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| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 12228 Registered: 12-2003  |
Our pastor Gary Inrig has been preaching through Jesus' Upper Room Discourse (John 13–17) for the past several weeks. This last Sunday his passage was John 16:5-15. It was an amazing sermon, and it incorporated the difference between the Old and New Covenants and the role of the Holy Spirit in believers and in the church. I have never heard this passage explained so deeply and clearly. You can listen or watch the sermon here. If you have the chance, the sermon from the week before, January 23, was also remarkable and dovetailed with the January 30 sermon. Truly, being part of Christ's body and being made alive by the Holy Spirit is a privilege and comes with the unlimited power of the entire Trinity as our inheritance. Being indwelt by a Person of the Trinity makes us the living witnesses of the Lord Jesus and the inheritors of Jesus' work in the world. I hope you'll be able to listen to this. Colleen | ||
| Jonvil Registered user Username: Jonvil Post Number: 491 Registered: 4-2007 |
A BIG thank you!! I've never heard Gary Ing before, but now that I have, I want to hear more. An excellent presentation on the Holy Spirit, a must see and LISTEN. I'm planning on copying and burning a DVD for my wife. Got to go, I'm going to watch 'Convicted'. John | ||
| Paulcross Registered user Username: Paulcross Post Number: 144 Registered: 4-2005 |
This is interesting, Just today at noon I was browsing in a Christian bookstore and found myself holding a book by Gary Inrig. Now two hours latter I open this up in my hotel room and I read this thread. When I get home latter this week I'll pull up those two sermons by Gary Inrig and give them a listen. PC | ||
| Doc Registered user Username: Doc Post Number: 651 Registered: 2-2003  |
Just listened to the first one so far. Very good! Adrian | ||
| Paulcross Registered user Username: Paulcross Post Number: 146 Registered: 4-2005 |
Back on home turf and just listened to the recording, while I processed paperwork in the office. I just wanted to share the one of the impressions I was left with as the sermon concluded. I am fed with sermons that are textually based,... didn't get much of that in the old days... I believe that where ever careful Bible study & reading is absent you can find narrowness, dogmatism and slavish loyalty to traditions. Conversely, where careful Bible study & reading are present dialogue and sharing are present and in that fertile ground God plants more mature understanding. However I must confess that I complain and chaff with the hard work of resolving "cognitive dissonance". Praise Him! His joy offsets my whining. \o/ Thanks for sharing the link Colleen. Paul Cross | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 12238 Registered: 12-2003 |
Paul, I understand that chaffing at resolving cognitive dissonance! Would you be able to share the "shape" of the dissonance that you might have experienced as you listened to the sermon? (Or maybe you didn't...perhaps you're speaking generally.) It's always helpful and defining to hear people articulate what they're "bumping against" and how they're processing it. Colleen | ||
| Paulcross Registered user Username: Paulcross Post Number: 148 Registered: 4-2005 |
Colleen, I was speaking generally when I refered to "cognitive dissonance" and what lead me to that comment is how Biblically based preaching that works its way through the text (and not ignoring the contest) more frequently is used by the Lord to bring me up against "stuff" that I have held very dear and make me wrestle with what the Word of God is teaching me. As I said in post #146 that was only one thing this sermon of Gary Inrig highlighted for me. Where I again bumped against the Word was when Gary referenced the paradigm shiflt the John 16 passage is presenting. Here is where I had to face the conflicts between "old tapes" and scripture. The passage says to me that Jesus is clear and forceful in saying that the presence of the Spirit among the believers is MORE powerful and beneficial than the presence of a physical, teaching and healing Jesus. I like (and I think human nature generally likes) the external evidences of the presence of God. I like to see certain behaviours and happy events that seem to become the "whole deal" and capture all of my attention. Gary talked about how under the new paradigm it is all about change and the dynamic of internal transformation that in turn flows out. Years of tapes play telling me that I (we) should tend to the externals and get people to comply. The old tapes say that if I keep the law God's charachter will be reproduced in me...I will be OK. What Gary reminded me of was a text from my personal devotions this past week, (Matthew 22:10) And those servants went out into the roads and gathered all whom they found, both bad and good, So the wedding hall was filled with guests.There was an embracing of the invitation given by the groom's father that was far more important than the external evidences of "good and bad". Under the new paradigm we are filled with the Spirit and allow the Spirit to do the work of change which then flows out in "...love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, selfcontrol;...". What flows out is a product of the Spirit present in me. There, I have to admit how fundamental the struggle is with those "old tapes". Basic stuff, but after twelve or more years of embracing the new paradigm, some evil villan sneaks into the archives and digs out the "old tapes" and plays them when I am weakest. If "Watergate" evidance can be destroyed, why cant my old tapes be destroyed? At least I know where to turn now when old dogmas clash with the Word of God. I said in my previous post; However I must confess that I complain and chaff with the hard work of resolving "cognitive dissonance". Possibly complaining and chaffing contain a large component of weariness over meeting those old tapes against and anger with finding self doubt ( am I being led by the Spirit or am I off on a tangent?) and also a sense of betrayal that a dogma I embraced so trustingly and whole-heartedly is so clearly at odds with scripture. This is a ramble - and may not be clear or complete but there it is... NOTE: Thanks to the Spirit and you (the body of Christ) those old tapes are so broken and distorted that their power diminishes steadily. Paul Cross I keep loosing an "L" when I type your name Colleen - I'll get it some day. (Message edited by PaulCross on February 05, 2011) | ||
| Bosslady Registered user Username: Bosslady Post Number: 15 Registered: 7-2009 |
I just listened to Dr. Inrig. What a blessing! Thank you Colleen. | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1684 Registered: 7-2007 |
That was a wonderful sermon!  I liked how that sermon illustration about that poor little old lady struggling to pay her deceased husband's life insurance policy when she didn't need to, reminded me of how SDAs struggle to keep the law. (Message edited by Asurprise on February 06, 2011) |
