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| Markmartin Registered user Username: Markmartin Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2007 |
Here's something you ought to read: http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/6945614611.html | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 11875 Registered: 12-2003  |
Very nice. And that brochure, 10 Questions and Answers on Seventh-day Adventism is now available. It should be in your local Christian bookstore, or you can order it here: http://www.rose-publishing.com/productdetails.cfm?PC=2331 Colleen | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1489 Registered: 7-2007 |
Back when I was an Adventist I never dreamed that Ellen White said what that pamphlet said concerning what Adventists believe about Jesus. In case there's any Adventists reading this who doubt that Ellen White said this, here's a quote from "Spirit of Prophecy" vol. 1 in the first chapter (about page 17 in the hardcover.) I didn't even know that Ellen White had written a book by that name until I went down and bought it myself from the Adventist Book Center. I thought ALL her writings were called "Spirit of Prophecy"! (Well, actually they are.) quote: "The great Creator assembled the heavenly host, that he might in the presence of all the angels confer special honor upon his Son. The Son was seated on the throne with the Father, and the heavenly throng of holy angels was gathered around them. The Father then made known that it was ordained by himself that Christ, his Son, should be equal with himself; so that wherever was the presence of his Son, it was as his own presence." Then Ellen White goes on to say how that act by the Father filled Satan's heart with envy and hatred. It sounds like she got a lot of her ideas from Mormonism. | ||
| Doc Registered user Username: Doc Post Number: 630 Registered: 2-2003  |
This does sound spookily like Mormonism. Not exactly classical Trinitarianism, is it? Adrian | ||
| Doc Registered user Username: Doc Post Number: 631 Registered: 2-2003 |
I also read that link above on the Twelve Tribes. These cultic groups really do have so many features in common. Maybe they even start out OK, but then a powerful leader starts to think he/she is the only channel of God's truth, so they are the only Christians. Then elitism, exclusivism, control, ever increasing wrong doctrine. Ending up with a lot of damaged people. It's all so familiar. Adrian | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 11895 Registered: 12-2003 |
Asurprise, I know. And yet, the influence of that little-remembered quote still permeates how Adventists perceive Jesus. Now they have all the "right words" about Him, but they relate to Him as limited (not omnipresent, for example) and somehow "less" than God. To Adventists, Jesus is the "accessible God", the one who's meek and mild, kind and forgiving, sort-of a "demi-god" and not God Almighty. The Father is God Almighty. Jesus is just--well, jesus. He's the one children pray to, and his name becomes a bit of an embarrassment. Furthermore, in Adventism, Satan has a legitimate right to be in conflict with Jesus--and we help Jesus win by our obedience. The fact that Adventists can actually believe that Satan has a legitimate gripe against Jesus and is engaged in a still-to-be-won battle is a direct result of Ellen's early teaching that Jesus was exalted over Satan, thus triggering The Great Controversy. Colleen | ||
| Patallen Registered user Username: Patallen Post Number: 166 Registered: 7-2010  |
Interesting! Pat |
