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Flyinglady
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 12:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adventist Review, Oct 31, 1996
A Plan of Savation was encompassed by the three Persons of the Godhead, who possessed the attributes of Diety equally.

In order to eradicate sin and rebellion from the universe and to restore harmony and peace ONE OF THE DIVINE BEINGS ACCEPTED, AND ENTERED INTO, THE ROLE OF THE FATHER, ANOTHER THE ROLE OF THE SON, THE REMAINING DEVINE BEING, THE HOLY SPIRIT, was also to participate in effecting the plan of Salvation.

This was posted on CARM by a Catholic who got it from the Adventist Review, Oct 31, 1996.
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is tritheism, not trinity.
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep!
Asurprise
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If any Adventists are reading this and saying: "Naaaawwwwww," I'd like to ask you to go to your local Adventist Book Center and purchase the book by Ellen White: "Spirit of Prophecy" VOL. 1; so you can see this for yourself and not just take my word for it, that she taught this sort of thing and worse! (I hadn't even known there was such a book by her. I thought ALL her books were called "spirit of prophecy.") Anyway if I remember right the cost is very reasonable. Here's a quote from the first chapter, second paragraph (about page 17):

quote:
"The great Creator assembled the heavenly host, that he might in the presence of all the angels confer special honor upon his Son. The Son was seated on the throne with the Father, and the heavenly throng of holy angels was gathered around them. The Father then made known that it was ordained by himself that Christ, his Son, should be equal with himself; so that wherever was the presence of his Son, it was as his own presence. The word of the Son was to be obeyed as readily as the word of the Father. His Son he had invested with authority to command the heavenly host."
It goes on after that about how envious and full of hatred Satan was, that Jesus was chosen ahead of himself.

It's obviously saying that Jesus was PROMOTED to equality with the Father at this point.

(Message edited by Asurprise on February 21, 2010)
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Trinity is just a word in the SDA dictionary to which they pour a different meaning. The same can be said for the words Grace, Justification, Sanctification, spirit, and soul.

Not unlike the JWs and LDS when you are dealing with any cult you MUST present the biblical meanings of those words and really should understand what they mean. Otherwise people are duped into thinking that "we're all talking about the same God, same bible etc" and that the typical SDA just has a unique spin on it.
Jonvil
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Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 6:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The SDA Dictionary

FREE: Free to accept but once accepted must be paid for.

GRACE: Merited favor to those who pay their debts. (see FREE).

SIN: Occasional and unintentional failings, lapses, mistakes.

SABBATH: An indefinite period of time with infinite variations depending on geographic location.

SABBATH KEEPING: Choose one of the 16 million definitions found in the Remnant, or create your own.

SALVATION: Fable, impossible to obtain. (see Greek Mythology)

Greek Mythology: Sisyphus (SIS-i-fus)

Sinner condemned in Tartarus to an eternity of rolling a boulder uphill then watching it roll back down again.

John’s Dictionary

WHITE: White does not reflect any light, it absorbs all light to prevent anyone from seeing it. (see Black)
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Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 8:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John, Love you dictionary.
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Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John, the SIN definition made my heart stop a beat. That is so true. When I was an SDA it was all about what I did or did not do. I never got the concept that I was a sinner in the pattern of the first Adam and that though this body of death is hanging on me 'til I'm called home it's not my actions that was the problem it was the my sin condition (not that actions aren't important) that Jesus died to redeem me from. As an SDA I didn't know I was speaking a whole other language

Enoch
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Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I find it very humbling that I am a sinner. Every so often I find myself looking at me and saying I haven't killed, coveted, committed adulter, etc. That is when God lets me know it is more then the physical acts. It begins in the heart and mind. He reminds me of the Sermon on the Mount. I have to say, God you are so RIGHT ON!!! He keeps me humble. Thank you awesome God.
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Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Enoch, same here.

Most of Christiandom does not acknowledge sinfulness as a condition but as an act, so who NEEDS Jesus? Just try harder!!

John
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Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 9:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, this is such a good thread. Love the dictionary, John...and Enoch, ditto for me. I did not understand that I was depraved. I also saw the "Godhead" (now I don't like that word, preferring "Trinity") to be three different beings.

Adventism has deceptively mimicked the gospel, and it is "no gospel at all", to quote Paul in Galatians. It is a mirage, promising hope, light, and relief, but it is the cruelest kind of offering. It masquerades as reality, but once inside it is proven to be hollow, fake—a quicksand promising a good life but stealing away assurance, rest, spirit, Scripture, and a sovereign God.

Praise God He is faithful, pursuing His own IN SPITE of the darkness and confusion.

Colleen

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