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| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 7885 Registered: 3-2004  |
http://www.movingtowardmodesty.com/ The above is a movement among sdas about modesty for women. I just looked at and skimmed through it and decided it was not worth my time. Just thought I would bring it to your attention. It is even on Facebook too. Diana L | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5939 Registered: 9-2006  |
The women with cleavage and lipstick get my vote. These women must be running for the congressional metal of obscurity. Some of them are already so ugly they could make a man die of fright. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5940 Registered: 9-2006 |
What they really mean is they are moving toward ugly. | ||
| Cortney Registered user Username: Cortney Post Number: 86 Registered: 8-2006 |
LOL, River! | ||
| Cortney Registered user Username: Cortney Post Number: 87 Registered: 8-2006 |
It' not nice to say but... EGW was very, very homely, maybe she was jealous of pretty people. So they were guilted into being 'plain' for the sake of not overshadowing 'the anointed one' with there nice features and fashion. You can wear jewelry and make-up and still be modest and pleasing to God. Was queen Esther a harlot, she wore jewels? I never understood how brouches were acceptable, but not a common simple wedding band?(I know i mis-spelled brouches) I think its funny I have family members with Rolex's, but a common 20 dollar wedding band is sinful. Hum...Alot of nonsense | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 10898 Registered: 12-2003  |
Oh, my goodness--I just went to the link, read several pages, and checked out some of the links to sites where "modest clothes" can be purchased... It just makes me depressed. So much time and energy spent on not wearing pants, wearing skirts below the knee, etc etc etc...all to demonstrate commitment to Jesus and readiness for His coming. I just want to shake people out of their altered reality and say, "There TRUTH and LIFE and HOPE and real JOY!!!" And it comes from being willing to give up all one's notions of "holiness" and bow before the Lord Jesus, using ONLY His word as the source of truth. It's very simple, really--we have to give up even our beliefs about righteousness and purity and holiness and give Him access to the places where we hide shame and remorse and brokenness and guilt. We have to KNOW and admit we are hopeless and broken and deserving of nothing from God. And THEN He can heal us and make us new and change our entire worldview, giving us freedom and hope and forgiveness and the certainty that our holiness is connected to Jesus--never to clothes or behavior. And no--knowing Jesus doesn't mean we will go out and murder, commit adultery, and wear short skirts. Goodness! Knowing Jesus means His holiness covers us. We don't have to obsess anymore. Colleen | ||
| Susans Registered user Username: Susans Post Number: 886 Registered: 8-2006 |
Those clothes are one step away from burkas. The only thing that needs to be covered further is the head. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 10902 Registered: 12-2003 |
Susan--it's good to see you again! Yup--you're right! Colleen | ||
| Jrt Registered user Username: Jrt Post Number: 980 Registered: 10-2008 |
Clicked on the link. Page came up and immediately I said out loud, "Oh, gross". And that isn't in regards to the dress. It is in regards to the legalism. But yeh, ... I used to think in those terms ... had to do all things to help myself be more "righteous". Thank goodness that yoke is gone. I agree with Colleen and sure did laugh at your comments River. Keri | ||
| Psalm107v2 Registered user Username: Psalm107v2 Post Number: 568 Registered: 10-2008  |
oh my. God forgive me for laughing (I have tears in my eyes from laughing so hard) but this reminds me of the fundamentalist Mormon groups. This had to come up sooner or later. If EGW is to be kept as the prophet, then her WHOLE counsel has to be acknowledged and kept. She had a "reformed dress" movement or some such thing that even staunch SDAs balked at. She's been dead 95 years (I wonder if they'll commemorate her death in 2015) and she still stirring up problems yeeesh Enoch Enoch | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5941 Registered: 9-2006 |
Susan wrote: Those clothes are one step away from burkas. The only thing that needs to be covered further is the head. I'd probably give half of'em 20 bucks apiece to cover their head. Their husbands will probably offer'em 20 bucks a day to not have to sleep withem', these ladies are going to make out like a fat rat in the financial market. Not so good in the love market. They'll be so ugly, when they go to the zoo the folks will hang out a 'welcome home' sign. I think it may be solid proof that man sprang from apes, in fact, I think we've found the missing link! They won't have to sweat wearing wedding rings. The only ring they are going to get is a rocket ring out of a box of cracker jacks. The cops will be handing out tickets for ugly! If they have a kid the doctor will spank the momma. God forgive you for laughing Enoch? God forgive me for tossing them peanuts! | ||
| Wolfgang Registered user Username: Wolfgang Post Number: 273 Registered: 10-2005 |
I clicked on one of the dress links to see what I could buy(right)  the dresses were ugly,but they sell daisy pads made of flannel that is for the obvious,gross ewww,are you kidding me??the add says just rinse and wash,again ewwwe!! | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 654 Registered: 8-2008 |
Colleen, that is so true. One of the problems Adventists have is they do not understand the difference between Old and New Covenant holiness. Old Covenant holiness was about keeping the commands at Sinai. It dealt with outward appearances, clothing, diet, religious ceremonies, etc. It was merely external: "This is a symbol for the present time, during which gifts and sacrifices are offered that cannot perfect the worshiper's conscience. They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of restoration." --Heb 9:9-10. New Covenant holiness means, in contrast, that Christ Himself, the only Holy One, dwells within the believer. New Covenant holiness is a holiness of the inner man that comes by being born again. New Covenant holiness is not a list of rules, like the Law. New Covenant holiness, in one word, is love. (Message edited by bskillet on February 02, 2010) | ||
| Snowboardingmom Registered user Username: Snowboardingmom Post Number: 550 Registered: 11-2005 |
My husband said it so well, "Modesty is it's own form of gaudiness. Dressing like that [referring to pictures from the links] draws just as much attention to oneself as dressing provocatively. Modesty like that is not modesty, it's display." I thought that was very well stated! And I'm thankful my husband thinks that . I spent most of my life wearing clothes that were two sizes too big for me, and quite "frumpy". My style of dress has changed a lot. My husband said to me recently, when referring to my old style, "I'm so glad you're wearing clothes that fit you now. Clothes are suppose to touch your body!" Grace | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 10904 Registered: 12-2003 |
Ha! Leave it to your husband, Grace, to say the truth with such succinct humor! Indeed. Colleen | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5943 Registered: 9-2006 |
Yall got so serious there I thought I was going to lose you and have to do CPR. Pardon me for laughing and cutting up, I know there must be some law against being so happy. Its very simple, God looks on the inner man, they are trying to dress up the outer man, when it should be the inner man they are concerned with. At the hospital this morning while I was waiting for them to draw blood, there was a retarded girl there about 24 years old, Her body was all twisted, she was noisy as she sang row row row your boat, and turned the pages of a magazine as fast as she could. But, her inner beauty shined through all that, yet she was unaware of the noise she was making or how she looked, or for that matter, what she had on. It is this beauty that is most wonderful, a heart that holds no hangups. River | ||
| Kathy23 Registered user Username: Kathy23 Post Number: 84 Registered: 6-2005  |
That website is simply terrible!! There was something in there about not condoning mixed company swimming. Even the swimwear is to the knees or close to it. Oh my! | ||
| Animal Registered user Username: Animal Post Number: 716 Registered: 7-2008  |
We animals are too humble to be modest. We party all nite and sleep all day. Keeps us out of trouble. Animal....keep the rootbeer flowing !!! | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 10907 Registered: 12-2003 |
Animal! Thanks for surfacing...or are you an animal that "surfaces"? River, I understand what you are saying. I think the reason we all got so serious is that most of us grew up with some variation of that website influencing us. While most of us didn't have families that extreme, nevertheless our SDA schools had "dress codes". I know that when I was a teenager, many schools (including the jr. high I attended) would literally measure the distance between a girl's hem and the ground as she kneeled if the teachers thought her skirt was too short. I remember that when I was in the 8th grade, I was mortified when my principal called my mom and made me go home and change my skirt (fairly common practice then) because it was "too short". Well, my mom was pretty mad, and I was mortified. My mom had made the skirt, and she was punctilious about the lengths and fit of such things. She knew the rules, and she was on the conservative side. This skirt was well within the length allowed by the school--I still don't know why I was sent home--and I had worn that skirt many times before and wore it again many times afterward. Moreover, I was pretty skinny and immature--unlike some of my classmates who really did wear tight skirts and always fought them because they crept so high when they sat. So, the issue of "Modest Dress" is not in a vacuum for us...it's touching on issues that colored a lot of our school years! We were those poor girls whose parents or teachers inspected and noticed what we wore. Even sleeveless blouses were forbidden when I was in my early teens! Sigh. It's dreadful...the focus is exactly where "they" say it shouldn't be: on our CLOTHES, for pity's sake! Ha! Colleen | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1868 Registered: 4-2000  |
Many years ago, I was acquainted with a devout SDA deacon who refused to wear a tie to church. He insisted that a men's tie is a needless accessory that draws attention to oneself. Guess what? His tieless attire brought lots of attention and discussion at the dinner table after each service (smile). This was in the days when casual attire for church was still unthinkable in Adventist circles. Oh well, legalists are never consistent. Dennis Fischer |
