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| Cordurb Registered user Username: Cordurb Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2009 |
Thought you all would enjoy this. Saturday morning as we were finishing breakfast, my adventist wife tells my 5 year old she needs to hurry up and get her chores done so they can get to Sabbath School - make her bed, brush her teeth, get her room picked up. My 5 year old daughter says, "Mom, aren't we supposed to rest on Sabbath?" I burst out laughing and walked away as I listened to my wife's response: "these are things you just always have to do, and especially you need to get them done before you can go to church" I am still amazed at how Adventists make up their own rules about Sabbath keeping, but I have a sense as my daughter gets older her question will become even more real to her - that the idea of Sabbath-keeping doesn't really make sense when part of the Sabbath meant cooking, cleaning, making your bed, etc and those are things you just have to do if you want to go to church. God has a plan! | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 7841 Registered: 3-2004  |
Out of the mouth of babes!!! Maybe your wife will listen to your daughter and meditate and think on what your daughter said and how she reacted and what she said. I am still praying for them. Diana L | ||
| Clintonc Registered user Username: Clintonc Post Number: 57 Registered: 10-2007  |
Cordurb, your daughter sounds like me! I was always protesting dish duty on Sabbath. Keep encouraging those conversation! Clinton | ||
| 8thday Registered user Username: 8thday Post Number: 1440 Registered: 11-2007  |
That is very funny!! Kids are NOT fooled - and they see the silly contradictions. My kids still serve me well in that area. ha. My grandmother would spend half of Sabbath afternoon cleaning up after her huge wonderful meal she made every week. She was an amazing vegetarian cook. I later decided firmly that while may be it was okay to do that on Sabbath, I wasn't going to. Especially during our time in the Hebrew Roots - we met in the evening - so Sabbath we really DID rest, in our jammies half the day - no cleaning, no dishes. It was great. But I realize.. God wants more for me than that. At the time, I was really only in the word and serious prayer on that day. Now I have the same fellowship every day with God, and Saturdays I am out and about... among people - which gives me a chance to minister HIM in the world instead of spending a day in seclusion. It's okay to do so, but I do love my new every day Sabbath life. The entire time I was an sda and hrm follower - I struggled with my daily quiet time with God. I would do it for awhile - then it would wane. I would feel guilty, force myself for awhile, then it would taper off again. I got SO frustrated with myself. But for the last 3 years - (not saying this to brag because it's NOT me) - it has not been a struggle, but a joy, a craving, a food for my soul that has become more important than the food for my body.. Like Job said.. "I have treasured the words of Your mouth more than my portion of food." Yes, I once in a great while miss a day of reading - but never of that fellowship in the Spirit with Christ. Just amazing the contrast in my life - between now, and then. Sondra (Message edited by 8thday on January 19, 2010) | ||
| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 343 Registered: 1-2007  |
Just trying to keep the Sabbath was work alone, trying to avoid this and that, or think this and that, say this or that, do this, don't do that. Why labor for the bread that perishes. Paul | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1144 Registered: 7-2007 |
When I tried to really "keep" the Sabbath, it was boring. Some time before I was saved, I was living alone in an apartment that overlooked a park with a creek running through it. During the week I was busy with my job, so naturally I looked forward to the weekend. When Sabbath came and after I'd come home from church, I quickly ran out of things to keep me occupied. Secular movies and books were out of the question and I had tired of hiking the local trails. Reading the Bible when I was an SDA was BORING. (It's FAR more interesting now, and I can easily keep my attention on what I'm reading, whereas before, I couldn't keep my mind on it.) After boredom had set in, a strange deep loneliness came over me. The loneliness was so great that I feared it wouldn't leave. I didn't understand it. Why would I feel THAT way, when all week I'd looked forward to having time to myself and furthermore I was in the ONE TRUE CHURCH??? Then sundown would come and the loneliness would evaporate as I plunged into secular activities, such as books, movies and doing my laundry. It wasn't until later, after I was saved, that I discovered that the Holy Spirit indwelling a person was more than a metaphor. He really does indwell you when you accept Jesus' finished work (which I couldn't completely accept as an Adventist.) I've never had that deep horrible loneliness again, since I was saved. I encourage any Adventist reading this to ask God to show you the truth - really ask and mean it! Your soul depends on it. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain! | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5887 Registered: 9-2006  |
Adventism is kinda like living from payday to payday, having worked all week with the expectancy of Sabbath, then when Sabbath comes around, and does not yield the expected satisfaction, its a big let down. There ain't no such thing as a week end Cristian, you're telling it right Asurprise, and you're rightly warning them that they will come up a day late and a dollar short, so you go right ahead and preach it sister. By cracky I'm listening whether they do or not. River | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5888 Registered: 9-2006 |
Being raised a Methodist, I had no excuse to get out of me washing dishes. I had a good excuse to wash them, which was a belt if I didn't do what I was told. I admire that little girls thinking, she is sharp as a tack. Kids just go right to the root of the problem, because they don't have a lifetime of coming up with a reason why the truth ain't really the truth.  River | ||
| Cordurb Registered user Username: Cordurb Post Number: 55 Registered: 4-2009 |
Amen River. The deeper my wife gets into her Adventist roots, the bigger the wall between us. I just continue to love on my kids, read them the bible, and pray God cover them with truth. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5892 Registered: 9-2006 |
You know Cordurb, There are more on this forum in the same boat you are, and it just dawned on me I need to write these names down, and really seek the face of God for you. I say I will pray, and I do pray, then other things come along and I forget quickly, not because I am uncaring, but because this world is full of needs and activity. So, I need to write your names down, and hang it up before me on my desk. Not because you yourselves don't have the ability to pray or any such things, but because you are my brothers and sisters who are right in the middle of it. Basicly, it boils down to this, if a persons partner is not of the same mind toward God, it hangs you out there alone. I have been struck by this fact so many time, but basically, I'm to stupid and slow on the uptake to get what God is telling me. So, I am going to write it down and seek God for you, and pray till the answer comes. Lets see...I believe there is you, Surfy, and Honestwitness. That ain't too much to hold in my pea brain, if I write it down. Now where in the world did I put them sticky notes? River | ||
| Jonvil Registered user Username: Jonvil Post Number: 323 Registered: 4-2007 |
Here is my typical week as an Adventist: I loved the Sabbath, it gave me an excuse for doing nothing. Most folks only give themselves one day, Friday, to prepare but I found I needed to start on Tuesday in order to expunge all secular thoughts and think of nothing but holy stuff, no time for worldly activities. Of course by Friday I’m so holy that I can’t bring myself to bathe, black my boots and shave my beard so I do that on Monday (I look pretty skuzzy by Sabbath but my thoughts are pure). Sabbath I wear my itchiest hair shirt, sackcloth suit and lots of after shave, stagger into church with the Testimonies, D of A, Great Controversy, and, if I plan on actually quoting scripture, The Clear Word Bible. Maintaining a stern expression I nod distantly and mutter ‘Happy Sabbath’ a gazillion times to the other folks milling around looking for some place to dump their pile of Testimonies, D of A and Great Controversy. Sabbath School – Ellen G White, Sermon – Ellen G White. Potluck, lots of gray plastic looking stuff floating in tepid mushroom soup, overcooked green beans and canned corn. Desserts vanish instantly. Home after church. lay activities until sunset. (wife hints at taking a shower) De-programming. I’ve attained such a high plane of existence that I need all day Sunday to return to secular thoughts and be able to perform such mundane activities like mowing the grass, but now it’s Monday and I have to start preparing for the Sabbath – now where is that boot black? John Douglas | ||
| Cordurb Registered user Username: Cordurb Post Number: 56 Registered: 4-2009 |
River, you are right on. My relationship with my wife is dead because we can't talk about the one thing in our life we say is most important. It is a prison. Thank you for your prayers. Corey | ||
| Jrt Registered user Username: Jrt Post Number: 965 Registered: 10-2008 |
Cordurb, I, too, will join River in praying for you and your wife. I know that it is difficult. We have in my church a couple in which one is evangelical and one is SDA. I have heard the anguish of heart in the one that is evangelical. The best advise I could give you is love your wife as Christ loved us while we were yet sinners. It sounds like she is dead, spiritually, yet, there is hope ... 1 Cor. 7:12-16. Will continue to pray, Keri | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 1628 Registered: 6-2006  |
John I'm fascinated! I think there a couple of those in my family. One in particular loves to share all the miracles that happen as a result of him "keeping" Sabbath. Don't know what we would do without him. Leigh Anne | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 10848 Registered: 12-2003  |
Praying here also, Cordurb. John, I simply cannot articulate how amazing it is to be free of the lie that the Sabbath is a created day when Jesus meets us in a special way. As an Adventist, I used to wonder where the Bible said He would meet us in a different way on Sabbath. Of course, I knew the commandments, etc., but I could never find the place where God said He would meet us differently and reveal Himself differently on that day. That notion always stuck in the back of my mind... My week also revolved around Sabbath. The entire rhythm of my life circled around the seventh day, and that day was always something I both anticipated (no work, remember??!!) and found to be anti-climactic. And why, if Sabbath was such a joy, was sundown always the moment of excitement? It was all a mirage...it was not "real". Reality is Jesus--the complete, finished work of Jesus and the eternal, non-cyclical rest of being in Him. Sabbath sacredness is a deception...deadly, in many cases, because it blinds us to the truth of Jesus. Anytime ANYTHING created (days, places, belief systems, etc) become issues of eternal significance, we can be pretty sure we've lost sight of true reality. Only God is eternal--not days--and our allegiance and fulfillment must be anchored only in Him. Created things cannot be objects we reverence...not even the seventh day. Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 7849 Registered: 3-2004 |
John, as a loyal adventist I would starte getting ready on Tuesdays. That was wash day. Wednesdays were ironing. Thursday was cleaning house and cooking. This was on top of working 8 hours outside the home. I have to admit I did this for 2 reasons: Sabbath and then I could do other things on the weekend and not have to worry about all the stuff I mentioned. Thank God I can worship God any day and not the day itself. Diana L | ||
| Psalm107v2 Registered user Username: Psalm107v2 Post Number: 554 Registered: 10-2008  |
River, please add me to the sticky notes, my wife is not saved. speaking of out of the mouth of babes...when my wife was growing up her parents sent her to church but did not go themselves. One day her mother said don't they teach you in church to obey your parents? My wife, feisty gal that she is said yep and they also say the Bible says "provoke not your children to wrath"-they stopped sending her after that and  at the same time Enoch | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5893 Registered: 9-2006 |
Ok Enoch, I added you and her. River | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 5894 Registered: 9-2006 |
John, I think you were borned with a neat sense of humor River | ||
| Lucybugg Registered user Username: Lucybugg Post Number: 251 Registered: 2-2007 |
I had an AHA moment during the night a few days/nights ago. I am not breaking the 4th commandment by going to church on Sunday. I do not keep Sunday as a holy day; it is the day I choose to go to church to worship the Lord and meet with other believers. Wonder what my SDA family would think if I shared this thought with them? |
