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| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 2503 Registered: 8-2004  |
While looking up something else, I ran across this interview with Ray Garton, an award winning author of numerous books in the horror genre. Here's a snippet:
Click here for the rest of the article. Does the description of his childhood ring any bells? Blessings, Mary | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 8434 Registered: 3-2004  |
LOL, LOL, I have to read the rest of that article. That rings plenty of bells in my memory. Thanks for the link. Diana L | ||
| Believer247 Registered user Username: Believer247 Post Number: 152 Registered: 3-2009 |
Wow, very interesting article. He comes right out and calls Adventism a cult. He is telling it like it is. | ||
| Yenc Registered user Username: Yenc Post Number: 318 Registered: 6-2008 |
WOW! That was one weird interview! The occult has never been something I've been drawn to, by curiosity or any other way. But I do like the crime shows--like to see the good guys get the bad guys--especially the real cases. Cut my "wisdom teeth" on murder mysteries like Perry Mason books (which I sneaked home from the public library) and then Sherlock Holmes. Now I read that great horror master, Dale Ratzlaff. Any of you guys ever read him???? | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 11567 Registered: 12-2003  |
Ohmygoodness, his childhood reminds me of mine... and Richard said that was his life, also. I was always afraid. I'm sorry that, as happens SO often, he appears to have completely rejected Christianity. That's what Adventism programs people to do...if they leave, they are inoculated against ever entering a "Sunday" church or trusting God. Colleen | ||
| Patallen Registered user Username: Patallen Post Number: 76 Registered: 7-2010  |
Mary, Thanks for sharing that link. Sounds like he was inside my head. I can totally relate. There is so much fear in Adventism, but it's not talked about as if it's not there. Why is this? Is it individual pride? Is it trying to keep up a front because they know how judgmental some of them can be? Then, of course, there's the Adventist grapevine. What do you suppose the response would be if someone would dare pose the question, "What are your deepest fears in your walk as an Adventist Christian?" Something tells me, they still wouldn't discuss it because the 'church' has a way of making you feel that something is wrong with you or you don't have enough faith, etc. When I was an Adventist, I never talked to anyone about my fears. Maybe it was my upbringing and maybe it was because I didn't want to appear doubtful or weak. I think there are a lot of Adventists feeling and thinking they are the only ones feeling this fear. I was sitting in a Sunday School class, not too long after leaving Adventism and one of the sisters was asking for prayer to stop smoking. The response was total love and assurance of intercession on her behalf. My mind immediately flashed back to Adventism because that's something you just don't do (at least not where I come from). If someone were to make a request like that in my former Adventist church, it would be the headliner in the Advenist grapevine before sunset. I think the silence has a lot to do with a lack of trust in each other simply because of the lack of love for each other. I'd often say that if I ever needed anything really bad, my former church would be the last place I would ask for it just to avoid all the various committees for approval and the subsequent talk. Who wants their business talked about over the members' dinner table? In the Sunday church I attended, I wouldn't feel the judgment, only love. Thank God for deliverance. Pat As an aside, my daughter just walked in and asked me if I were ready to open the Sabbath. I about croaked ... didn't know I would have such a LOUD negative response. She was only kidding to get a reaction. Well, she got one! | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 903 Registered: 12-2007 |
I just read that mans interview and it is scarey,,, mostly because there is so much truth in it. The covers on his books are really frightening. I feel so bad for this man. He looks like a nice guy from his picture, but the nightmares he must have to come up with those awful stories. :-( I hope I didnt do a "no no" but there is a "contact" thing on his page and I sent him an email (probably wont get read) but I told him that there are MANY who have come out of the Adventist denomination that can relate to his feelings of fear. I told him that there is this site where many Former Adventists come together and that we have NOT given up on God, just the deceptive Adventist doctrines and the twisted "crap" from Ellen White. I told him Ellen White wrote a lot of stuff that probably makes for good "horror" novels. I pray that someday this man as well as so many others who have left Adventism will realize that there is life and joy in the Lord AFTER Adventism. Francie | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 904 Registered: 12-2007 |
"As an aside, my daughter just walked in and asked me if I were ready to open the Sabbath. I about croaked ... didn't know I would have such a LOUD negative response. She was only kidding to get a reaction. Well, she got one!" Pat that is so funny ! I couldnt help but LOL when I read that. :-) Francie | ||
| Jrt Registered user Username: Jrt Post Number: 1103 Registered: 10-2008 |
Mary, Wow! Yes, I, too, as described above felt like this man. All I can say is it is almost affirming to see this man articulate it so well - but so sad that he looks to have become atheist. Thanks for sharing the link. Keri | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 6530 Registered: 9-2006  |
Certain key words spoken to a former Adventist, is like waving a red flag in the face of a bull. It may be ok to wave it, just be sure you are on the other side of the fence and the gate is closed.  River | ||
| Patallen Registered user Username: Patallen Post Number: 78 Registered: 7-2010 |
River, I like that analogy! She said my whole body tensed up along with my loud verbal negative response. Pat | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 906 Registered: 12-2007 |
So..... Pat.... Was your "loud verbal negative response" a simple "NO!" or more like "HE-- NO!" LOL That was "heck no" by the way LOL.. Believe me ? :-) Francie | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1263 Registered: 3-2009 |
Hey, heck and hec are too close for comfort. Hec | ||
| Joyfulheart Registered user Username: Joyfulheart Post Number: 764 Registered: 10-2006 |
River, you're funny! That is so true! | ||
| Patallen Registered user Username: Patallen Post Number: 79 Registered: 7-2010 |
Let's suffice it to say that my eyes said one thing but my mouth said another. I was a good Adventist girl and never learned to cuss.  Pat | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 6537 Registered: 9-2006 |
I read the article..at least most of it..time just doesn't permit reading everything I come across. I am not a fan of this type of novel, or this style of writing, but 54 books under your belt definitely establishes one as a writer. My first impression of this man is sort of an in your face rebellion, a “You bred me, raised me and tortured me, now you have to live with me.” Is that the way he comes across to you all? Or is it just me? | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 908 Registered: 12-2007 |
I think it is just really sda that this man apparently has such a talent for writing and yet that talent is wasted by the kind of books he chooses to write. I am not a fan of horror... either in novels or movies either one... there is enough scarey stuff going on in the real world without allowing myself to be scared senseless by fictional horrors. Francie | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 909 Registered: 12-2007 |
OOPS ! I just read what I posted and see I typed sda instead of SAD.... but maybe it applies. LOL Francie | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 6540 Registered: 9-2006 |
Skeeter, if your not a fan of horror stories, then you won't like one of the stories in my new book, because Adventism, I think, was the inspiration for this story. To me the story hits home, whether or not it does to anyone else. So, if by the grace of God I can get this thing edited and published, will you please give it a read? Read it of a morning when its daylight, that'll help! I know it will seem a little 'rank' to a lot of people who read it. Two of the stories are actually inspired by Adventism, and I'm not sure that others outside of Adventism will 'get' these two stories, and who knows? Maybe nobody will, but one of the stories I am sure will stir the emotions of many former Adventist, and endear them to the characters. If so, I will feel I did what I set out to do. Actually Ol'Chet Wolford, the Ho Bo, kind of grows on you' I guess you might say I wrote these two stories for the beloved members this forum. I think that would be correct to say that. River | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 911 Registered: 12-2007 |
River, Of course I will read it. I treasure my other books you have sent me :-) I wrote my name and phone # inside the front covers and I loaned them out a couple times telling them to read them and enjoy but "I want them back because they were a gift from a friend who is also the author" :-) My idea of "Horror" novels would be the blood and guts knife slashing ghosts and skeletons, etc. Not something you would write that may be "horror" as in "horrible" and pretty much based on something sadly true. Skeeter |
