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| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 2072 Registered: 4-2000  |
In the late 1960s, I helped the local SDA pastor to sell real meat sloppy joes (out of a can) at an Appaloosa Horse Show to raise money for the Roan Mountain SDA church school in east Tennessee. The Adventist pastor claimed that fake meat was too expensive and would narrow the profit margin substantially. I well remember a prospective customer asking the pastor, "Are these sandwiches good?" The pastor, trying to be honest, replied "I actually haven't tasted one." By the way, I used to enjoy riding horses through the beautiful Roan Mountain area of east Tennessee. After all, I grew up riding horses and working them in the fields in western North Dakota. Well, today through next Friday, the annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is taking place in western South Dakota. I have friends who are now there at this huge annual gathering. Generally speaking, these motorcycle enthusiasts have an above-average annual income. The local SDA church school in Rapid City needs some extra money for its 17 students, so they hit upon a cool theme appropriately called "Nuts for the Road." They are selling yummy roasted almonds, vegetable chips, corn nuts, New Orleans trail mix, sesame sticks, cashews, dried cherries, dried apricots, and pistachios. This seems like an ideal snackfood for a motorcycle trip. To their credit, this fundraising endeavor doesn't violate their church standards, and they will likely rake in many dollars. Oh yes, my church (Faith Bible Church) here in Lincoln, Nebraska has an active motorcycle ministry. Dennis Fischer (Message edited by Dennis on August 08, 2010) | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1336 Registered: 7-2007 |
That's amazing that an SDA pastor would sell real meat sloppy joes! Years ago when I went to the SDA redwood campmeeting (I was an SDA then) in California, I wondered at the high cost of fake meat being sold in the little store on the grounds. I mean, if Ellen White said that people can't make it through the "time of trouble" if they eat meat and that God will "lay them to rest" because they can't make it through (I guess their bodies will be so supposedly weakened by the eating of REAL meat - hmmm, how does she suppose that Jesus made it through His "time of trouble" which was far worse than anybody else will have to endure, after He ate the Passover lamb?), anyway I mean why does the SDA church have to sell their fake meat for such a high price that poor people can't afford it? Another time when I went to the Gladstone SDA campmeeting near Portland, OR, I also wondered at the high cost of books. I like to read stories and stories from the ABC book center cost so much more than stories from the book store at the local mall. Plus the paper-back books from the book store at the mall held together, but the paper-back books from the ABC came apart. [at least a few years back - I don't know how their books are now.] | ||
| Jonvil Registered user Username: Jonvil Post Number: 425 Registered: 4-2007 |
As an Adventist I found the cost of their literature appalling, so I didn't buy it. Who would've guessed that that was probably the only right decision I made while an Adventist, except, of course, the decision to leave. | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1222 Registered: 3-2009 |
Meat eating seems to be one of those "take it or leave it" issues. It is not standard among the SDAs. Many eat meat, many don't. In spite of what EGW says, they do whatever they feel like doing in their "pick and choose" process. Bible and EGW alike. Some schools do not allow the students to bring meat for their lunches. I some cases, the teachers even go around the lunch area trying to see if any student have brought meat. Of course some do it more subtle than others. When I was a principal, I never said anything about what the students could bring for lunch. Now, if the school provided the lunch, then there could be no meat. But I was not going to be the conscience of the parents on what their kids could eat. In one of the schools where I worked, we used to take the dorm students out on Saturday night. We would stop at a restaurant and the students were allowed to buy whatever they wanted. The cafeteria wouldn't serve meat, but when the students were off campus, they could buy whatever they wanted even if it was a school function. What I did notice was that many pastors who would say from the pulpit that meat was against EGW and SDA believes, they would go out and eat meat. Or they would not cook it at home, but would eat it when offer by a host when they were visiting friends. Hec | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 8409 Registered: 3-2004  |
I am so glad "Uncle Arthur's Bedtime Stories" were to expensive for me. So I read the stories right from the Bible to my son. God was guarding him and me from before the time I had him. A week before he was born I thought I was going to be killed by getting squished between a big tanker and a pick up truck. All I said was God help me. The next thing I knew my car was at the side of the road and the tanker and pickup were ahead of me. Yep, God was taking care of both of us before my son was born. Diana L | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 2074 Registered: 4-2000 |
Asurprise, I vividly remember that the local church school teacher refused to sell the real meat sandwiches--even though she directly benefited from the funds raised. She didn't even show up to help in any manner for that fundraising booth. Other food items besides real meat sandwiches were sold. The Adventist pastor felt she had a double standard. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Yenc Registered user Username: Yenc Post Number: 284 Registered: 6-2008 |
I'm cracking up over the term "Nuts for the Road"! Does the "Nuts" part refer to the natural foods or to the sellers!?!? | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 6487 Registered: 9-2006  |
You need to have a fair income to own a motorcycle. The parts for motorcycles are too high, like boats, when you mention motorcycle, go for you wallet. Who can afford too eat meat nowadays no matter who you are? If I ate out of a health food store, I would have to sell my bike, its either eat or ride, and I'd rather ride as eat. I'm in a real pickle here, could somebody send a donation? Notice- Wanted Woman with new motorcycle, send picture of motorcycle. | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 891 Registered: 12-2007 |
How about Wanted.... woman who can cook up roadkill, send picture of possum. :-0 Skeeter | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 6494 Registered: 9-2006 |
Possum is good too! | ||
| Lucybugg Registered user Username: Lucybugg Post Number: 266 Registered: 2-2007 |
Dennis...my hubby's family was in the Unicoi Co./Erwin TN area in the late 60's. You might have crossed paths with them. If so, what a small world... | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 2077 Registered: 4-2000 |
Lucybugg, I have been in that area many times as a colporteur (literature evangelist) in the late 1960s. Sometimes my wife would accompany me in canvassing. Later I served as Associate Publishing Director of the Carolina Conference for several years. It is a beautiful part of the world. We enjoyed living in the South. Dennis Fischer |
