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Carracio
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Username: Carracio
Post Number: 55
Registered: 3-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 3:28 am: |     |
Last sunday in church we were reading Genesis 1. The sermon wasn't about Adventism or being a vegetarian but what struck me was verses 29 and 30. I know many adventists are vegetarian and pointing at Genesis. But in verse 29 I read that God gives to humans the seed-bearing plants and fruit, BUT to the animals he gives every green plant. How do adventists deal with it? Is a green plant for example also spinach? Or other vegetables? Or is this a weird question.
29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so. |
1john2v27nlt
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Username: 1john2v27nlt
Post Number: 561
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 9:40 pm: | |
I remember noticing those verses & thinking with a jolt: greens/salad is for the animals!! not for humans! All the SDAs are wrong about the Eden diet!
Then I wondered what seed-bearing plants are & how they differed from 'every green plant' ?? |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 15339
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 - 10:42 pm: | |
And then one reads Genesis 9 where, after the flood, God gives man everything that moves to eat...and puts fear of man into the animals.
Amazing. Who knew?
Colleen |
Mainexile
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Username: Mainexile
Post Number: 215
Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2016 - 3:12 pm: | |
Putting my Adventist thinking cap on, I would reply...
And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.”
Adventist reply:
"Everything that has the breath of life in it....this includes humans who have the breath of life."
They use this same logic referring to Gen 9 when talking about eating meat (either clean or unclean). It says, "Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant."
(Although, on a side note, this would confirm that God gave the green plants to people too at the beginning)
Adventist reply, "Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you. Does that mean it is OK to eat people too? They are alive and move about."
Amazing isn't it?
(Message edited by mainexile on March 02, 2016)
(Message edited by mainexile on March 02, 2016) |
Asurprise
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Username: Asurprise
Post Number: 3520
Registered: 7-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 4:27 pm: | |
Mainexile; I got that exact same answer from an Adventist in a Sabbath school - the one where they replied: "does that mean it's okay to eat people too?" Ugg!  |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 15348
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2016 - 6:20 pm: | |
Sigh. It's amazing how quickly Adventists (and anyone who disbelieves Scripture yet senses its piercing truthfulness) will MOCK God's word in an attempt to deflect its arrows of truth and to redirect the conversation.
Colleen |
Butterfly_poette
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Username: Butterfly_poette
Post Number: 413
Registered: 5-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 04, 2016 - 12:17 pm: | |
There was no death in the Garden of Eden. People didn't eat animals and animals didn't eat other animals. Sin brought death and people and animals eating animas. The Bible doesn't say it's wrong to eat meat. People have a choice in that matter. In Heaven it will be like the Garden of Eden once again. |
Philharris
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Username: Philharris
Post Number: 3207
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 04, 2016 - 5:52 pm: | |
Keep in mind it is God who clothed Adam and Eve with animal skins which implies that it is God who killed the first animals. And, Able sacrificed an animal which God accepted which prompted Cain to murder him. Whether or not the meat was eaten is beside the point at that time. Animals for one reason or another were being killed.
(Message edited by philharris on April 04, 2016) |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 15362
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 3:28 pm: | |
Good points, Phil. Another thing, Butterflypoette, is that the Bible does not say the new earth (nor heaven) will be like the Garden of Eden. It says we are looking for new heavens and a new earth; the old heavens will pass away with a roar, and all the elements will be destroyed with intense heat. The earth and all its works will be burned up (2 Peter 3).
Our eventual home will not be a return to Eden. In fact, we do not know what it will be like, as God has told us it has not entered into the mind of man the things God has prepared for us.
Eden is past, and our destination is something greater than Eden!
Colleen |
