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| Iamfree Registered user Username: Iamfree Post Number: 38 Registered: 3-2014 |
Here is a recent quote that I came across. It is a discussion of Willam Miller not accepting the Sabbath . "God suffered him to fall under the power of Satan, the dominion of death, and hid him in the grave from those who were constantly drawing him from the truth. Moses erred as he was about to enter the Promised Land. So also, I saw that William Miller erred as he was soon to enter the heavenly Canaan, in suffering his influence to go against the truth. Others led him to this; others must account for it. But angels watch the precious dust of this servant of God, and he will come forth at the sound of the last trump". Early Writings pg 258. So my question is why would she say he was "soon to enter the heavenly Canaan?" Was this before the soul sleep doctrine was established? If not, why would she choose to use this wording? Maybe she was referring to the resurrection? Anyway, I just found it interesting and wanted some opnions. | ||
| Islander Registered user Username: Islander Post Number: 77 Registered: 4-2014 |
I don't know what the term Heavenly Cannon means. Please explain the term. But, what I mostly get out of that passage is we are acvoumtable for other people not following the truth. | ||
| Iamfree Registered user Username: Iamfree Post Number: 39 Registered: 3-2014 |
I think it means land, as in the Caanan that the Israelites were lead to? At least that is what I got out of it. I guess the second part to that is what you were saying, that some people will not make it to heaven because the didn't keep the Sabbath, but for others if the "truth" is rejected because of those around them that influenced them, those who influenced are the ones who won't be saved. Crazy stuff! | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 14991 Registered: 12-2003  |
I don't know the year she wrote the above quote, but I suspect she wrote it soon after the Great Disappointment. She kept setting dates until 1851, when the "shut door" of mercy "opened" again to allow the children and spouses of the early Adventists to be allowed to be saved. She condemned all who did not accept the investigative judgment message, and she said Christian preachers were leading people astray by saying you couldn't set dates, etc. She said those preachers who rejected the unique SDA interpretation of the investigative judgment were lost and had the blood of souls on their hands. It may be it was this rejection on the part of Miller that she was talking about, that he had given the "midnight cry" of Jesus' return and was on the verge of going to heaven, but by rejecting the SDA explanation (and thus also the continuing date-setting), he had lost out on that possibility, dying instead. She does allow him to be saved in the end, though, like Moses. Sigh. Colleen | ||
| Iamfree Registered user Username: Iamfree Post Number: 41 Registered: 3-2014 |
Thank you Colleen for your comment. It is interesting to consider that William Miller's fate was already determined, while the rest would have to wait until the IJ was over before they would know if their salavation was secure. When doctrines are not biblical, it is so easy to disprove them through statements made by the very people who developed them because they don't make sense in the first place and secondly because they are created through human wisdom not divine. So because the IJ didn't really make sense to begin with, she wouldn't even think to say, that the fate of Miller would have to wait until the final decision had been made after the IJ was over, instead she went ahead and bodly stated that that He would receive salvation. She didn't even see her mistake because her "wisdom" about the IJ was not divine. A true prophet of God would not contradict a doctrine given to them directly from God. It is so very disturbing! | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 14994 Registered: 12-2003 |
Exactly. A true prophet would not contradict a revelation given by God. Moreover, God would never use an untruth to teach a truth, so the idea that God "deceived" Miller into giving the 1843 date so people would "get ready" before correcting it to 1844 (EGW said God held his hand over Miller's mistake) is accusing God of deliberate deception. Colleen |
