| Author | Message | ||
| Foofighter Registered user Username: Foofighter Post Number: 84 Registered: 7-2005 |
Has anyone seen this on Spectrum? A new book by scholars about EGW? I think they are mostly SDA, except for Ron Numbers. Not totally sure about that, but did ask the question if they were all, if not mostly SDA... Take a gander at this. What do you think? | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 3044 Registered: 10-2004  |
I hadn't seen this. Here's the link: http://www.spectrummagazine.org/blog/2009/10/04/scholars_publish_book_ellen_white And a quote from the press release:
Wow. Notice how they themselves group SDA with LDS, JW, and Christian Science! LOL. So how can they get upset if we do the same? And isn't it funny how they refer to them as "the four most innovative denominations"? Right--not exactly "contend[ing] earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints." (Jude 1:3 NASB.) Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on October 05, 2009) | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 610 Registered: 3-2009 |
They are right when they call themselves a denomination in this context. According to Babylon Dictionary a denomination is a "name (particularly of a class of things); kind, class; religious sect." They are religious and they form "a class of things" like a class of false religions. They are wrong when they call themselves a denomination in the context of Christan religion. Hec | ||
| Raven Registered user Username: Raven Post Number: 1083 Registered: 7-2004  |
Unbelievable! But I'm pretty sure I know the spin that will be put on that. I've heard several times over the years as an SDA that every time God does something important/prophetic, there are always counterfeits at the same time to detract. So they think the other three are the devil's counterfeits while EGW is from God. | ||
| Seekinglight Registered user Username: Seekinglight Post Number: 438 Registered: 3-2009 |
Oh yeah....the counterfeit "logic".... | ||
| Foofighter Registered user Username: Foofighter Post Number: 85 Registered: 7-2005 |
Jeremy, Thanks for the link. Innovative? Well, I guess that's one way to put it. Not the word I would have chosen, but then I don't work for the church. Raven, Before we left the church, we were attending a "Bible" study with Adventists, one of which was a real fruitloop. I think he fancied himself some kind of prophet or something. Anyway, the topic of Mormon's came up, and he made the comment that "the counterfeit always comes before the true." I had never heard anything like that before. Is this an SDA way of thinking? Carol I thought I posted this already, so if it shows up in a random spot...I guess I messed up!!!! | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 1856 Registered: 5-2007  |
Well, I went. I read. And, I posted my reaction:
Just could not resist saying something!  Fearless Phil | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 7577 Registered: 3-2004  |
That is why you are Fearless Phil!!! Diana L | ||
| 8thday Registered user Username: 8thday Post Number: 1273 Registered: 11-2007  |
Way to be Fearless, Phil!!!! =) Great work! My thoughts exactly. I have heard numerous times that Joseph Smith was the devil's attempt to discredit the true prophetic gift of Ellen White.. to be a distraction and cause doubt (because... it's so easy to associate them as being in the same genre.) I don't know how many people mistook us for Mormons when we were sda.. people who had never heard of sda.. they would start ask us questions and we were like.... "No, that would be the Mormons" ha. When I read the word "innovative" there I really laughed out loud. It is so very true. All cults have to be, like people selling snake oil have to be innovative.. because they have nothing of value, they just make you think they do. Seeing themselves list themselves with the other great cults just boggles my mind.... I can't even begin to imagine the Southern Baptists or Lutherans comparing themselves with these other groups. Truly bizarre... I want to say, "Don't look now but your cult is showing." LOL. Sondra | ||
| Foofighter Registered user Username: Foofighter Post Number: 86 Registered: 7-2005 |
Hi Sondra, I read your comment on Spectrum, and I was wondering what the title of the book is that you referred to regarding the history of Battle Creek. Sounds really interesting. Thanks, Carol | ||
| 8thday Registered user Username: 8thday Post Number: 1276 Registered: 11-2007 |
It's called "Battle Creek - The Place Behind the Products - an Illustrated History" by Larry B. Massie & Peter J. Schmitt This was a cool find one day in the sale book rack a the library. Chapters 3 & 4 deal in depth with egw, sda religion, and the health industry. You really get a bigger picture of all the things going on there during that point in time, and all the various influences. I found it SO interesting. Don't know if it's still available. I really loved it because it was the only thing I've ever read that had been researched from a historical point of view and not one of pro or con sda. Sondra (Message edited by 8thday on October 06, 2009) | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 386 Registered: 12-2007 |
Thaks for the info. I just ordered one on abebooks.com Will be interesting I am sure. :-) | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 1857 Registered: 5-2007 |
The book; Battle Creek the Place Behing the Products, is out of print but used copies are available at Barnes and Noble or Amazon online. I bought a used copy which is in 'like new' condition. To me, it is a book well worth having, since I am a bit of a history buff. Basicly, it talks about Battle Creek from a non-SDA point of view. Fearless Phil | ||
| Handmaiden Registered user Username: Handmaiden Post Number: 154 Registered: 7-2008 |
Mary, Can you order this book through your book store?? | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 2205 Registered: 8-2004  |
 I can, but not for any less than the internet sites. It looks like there are a number for sale at half.com and amazon marketplace as well. Thanks for asking! | ||
| Handmaiden Registered user Username: Handmaiden Post Number: 159 Registered: 7-2008 |
Mary, if the cost is the same or even a little more...that is fine. i would rather support you, a single mom and sister in Christ, than ... Please look up my email address and get me started. love handmaiden | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 2206 Registered: 8-2004 |
Handmaiden, I sent you an email at what I think is your address. Let me know if you get it! Blessings, Mary | ||
| Handmaiden Registered user Username: Handmaiden Post Number: 162 Registered: 7-2008 |
Mary, i got your email and i signed up for a catalog. Thanks handmaiden | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 797 Registered: 1-2003  |
Mary, where do I sign up for a catalog? Richard rtruitt@mac.com . | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 2208 Registered: 8-2004 |
Hi Richard, Check your email. Or, click here. (Message edited by helovesme2 on October 07, 2009) | ||
| Foofighter Registered user Username: Foofighter Post Number: 87 Registered: 7-2005 |
Hi Sondra, Thanks for the info. I just ordered my copy. Can't wait to read it. |
