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| Benevento Registered user Username: Benevento Post Number: 286 Registered: 4-2005 |
I received this by e-mail: <http://www.spectrummagazine.org/blog/2009/06/19/> "To those of you who have concerns re the recent attack on professors at La Sierra. You might find the article and blog following the article interesting." I hadn't heard about trouble at La Sierra but you might find this article interesting and the blogs,also there is an article about a PK that you should read. Preachers Daughter--.Peggy | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 27 Registered: 12-2007 |
did you see the ad for the "Prophecy" t shirt ? I couldnt get the picture to show up here.It shows the statue with the clay feet, etc . go to the link above and to the La Sierra information dated June 2 click the read more link then look on the right hand side and there is the ad for the t shirt. Francie | ||
| Benevento Registered user Username: Benevento Post Number: 287 Registered: 4-2005 |
Yes I did notice it--my f-i-l took Theology at WWC back in the early 1900's 1917-21 and helped with meetings during the summers we had several posters of the horrible beasts.(we inherited a trunk full of stuff) If they hadn't been so huge we would have kept them! Was almost tempted to order a tee shirt--but what would I do with it? At least it would be smaller!! Peggy | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 857 Registered: 7-2007 |
From the lyrics of that one song they posted, it doesn't sound like she (the PK) is saved. She (according to one of her songs) doesn't know if she's "goin' up or down." She is right about one thing though. ALL religion is toxic. My heart grieved as I read about her. It seemed to me that she doesn't know that there is anything more than religion. Religion is simply man's effort (through works or something that he can do) to reach God. In real Christianity God has done it all and all man needs to do is accept it. Unfortunately we are all born legalists, as my pastor says, and we have a tendency to want to do SOMETHING! Religious people scoff at Christianity, because they know deep down how utterly depraved the human heart is. They don't know that when a person becomes a Christian, that from then on, Someone much more powerful than man dwells within the Christian. That's why a Christian "acts" like a Christian. The religions are deceptive though. The people in them are "having a form of godliness but denying it's power." 2nd Tim. 3:5 I couldn't find out from that website what the attack was on the professors, though. | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 2074 Registered: 8-2004  |
If it's what I've heard complained of elsewhere, the 'attack' would likely be in reference to some of the La Sierra campus professors not teaching Creationism. | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 859 Registered: 7-2007 |
They ought to watch the movie "Expelled, No Intelligence Allowed." That movie shows how Darwinism is being exposed as an utterly ridiculous and obsolete theory. (Darwinism definitely contributed to the atrocity of the holocaust.) Professors at secular universities who admit to the possibility of "intelligent design" get fired or blacklisted. Creationism is one of the very few things that Adventists have RIGHT! (Though that's not enough to save them. A person has to accept Jesus' finished work and not think they are partly saved by their own works - in order to be saved.) | ||
| Benevento Registered user Username: Benevento Post Number: 288 Registered: 4-2005 |
Back to the PK and the lyrics--which really was meant to be a side issue--it is heart breaking--so many SDA's leave the church and don't have a foundation for believing in God or salvation. Without a rudder, they are so convinced that the sda church is the only true church and it doesn't satisfy. The longer I am out the more beauty I see in the Bible and how the New Covenant truly answers all our questions. Christ indwelling in us--how wonderful! On the Evolution and Creation discussion I thought some of the blogs were interesting--If Biology is your major you should know what the Evolutionists believe I think--I would not want to work with Islam people without understanding their beliefs and I could come off insulting them because of ignorance. or Progressives and Conservatives on the political scene. They may never agree but you won't get very far if you don't know something about them. | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1705 Registered: 4-2000  |
Asurprise, Actually, the SDA view of death (nature of man) and that of evolutionary theorists are largely the same. Seventh-day Adventists insist that they die just like animals (with the exception of being in the remembrance of God like a fallen sparrow). Both strict evolutionists and devout Seventh-day Adventists deny having a human spirit (the immaterial part of man). Thus, on this important matter, Adventists are in the company of many heathen, atheists, agnostics, communists, and evolutionists. The SDA stance on creationism is a very weak and limited one. Truly, we are known by the company we keep. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 7048 Registered: 3-2004  |
Dennis, I am sure the SDAs do not like to hear that. WOW!!! I did not know the company the SDAs kept. Diana L | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1706 Registered: 4-2000 |
NEW BOOK RECOMMENDATION "Galileo goes to Jail and other Myths about Science and Religion" by Dr. Ronald L. Numbers, a renowned and longtime professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Recently released by the Harvard University Press. Dr. Numbers is an alumnus of Southern Adventist University. Happy reading! Dr. Numbers, a former professor at Loma Linda University, is the nephew of Adventism's ABC (ask, believe, and claim) revivalist, the late Glenn Coon. Moreover, Dr. Numbers has authored nearly 20 books--primarily in the field of medical history. His excellent book, "Prophetess of Health," created my first doubt about Seventh-day Adventism way back in 1976. This book created a firestorm in Adventist circles that still continues its turbulence today. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 863 Registered: 7-2007 |
Is Dr. Numbers still an Adventist? | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1707 Registered: 4-2000 |
Dr. Numbers claims to now be an agnostic. Unfortunately, this is the stance of many university professors and former Adventists. He was heavily mistreated and lied to by the White Estate. I have some tapes of his testimony. On one occasion, a very devout Adventist had to be escorted out the meeting with engorged veins on his neck due to disturbing the meeting in an audible tirade. I have also spoken to him personally by phone. He has suffered alot from SDA abuse during his professional life. Let us remember him in our prayers. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 380 Registered: 8-2008 |
Demon possession will do funny things to a man... | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 382 Registered: 8-2008 |
I believe in God literally creating the earth and everything on it by the word of his mouth. I do not believe in any sort of theistic evolution or anything of the like it. But the point of Genesis 1 and 2, which I have discovered researching for my book, is not a literal six-day creation cycle. As Dale pointed out in Sabbath in Christ, the first three days God creates places for things to live, and the next three days He creates the things to live in them, respectively day by day. The point of the narrative is God's unfathomable grace, His completely perfect provision for His creatures, especially man. In studying this, I have come to see that the point of Genesis 1 and 2 is God's grace. Adam and Eve rejected living in God's grace and instead wanted to live by their own strength. Adventists can call themselves creationists, but until they realize that the point of Genesis 1 and 2 is that God created man to live in His love, they will never truly be creationists. To try to fully comprehend God's act of creation is to try to comprehend His grace. We cannot. His grace is unfathomable. We can only stand in awe of it. |
