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| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 803 Registered: 7-2007 |
...and Catholicism, Mormonism, J.W. etc. I was reading an article about why Catholicism isn't Christian; and I noticed that the same arguments could apply to Adventism. Here's a couple of them: 1. The Catholics view of the Bible. They view the Bible as having the same authority as the church and traditions. Adventists view Ellen White as having the same authority as the Bible. Yes, I know she's supposed to be "the lesser light pointing to the greater light," but ask almost any Adventist and they'll tell you that she got her inspiration from the same source as the writers of the Bible did; therefore being just as inspired. 2. The article said that the most critical difference between Catholics and Christians is their view of salvation; that Catholics view salvation almost entirely as a process and that they see themselves as "being saved." Adventists believe the same way. On the other hand, Christians view salvation both as a completed status and a process. The Bible shows that salvation is a gift that is received the moment a person accepts Jesus as their Savior. (see Romans 5:1,9; Hebrews 10:14; Ephesians 1:13,14; Ephesians 2:8,9) When I was an Adventist, I thought a "relationship" with God was simply being good, asking forgiveness and trying to listen for His voice. As a Christian, a "relationship" with God involves an actual fellowship with Him. I can now actually sense His Presence with me from time to time, and He teaches me things, whereas before, I never sensed His Presence nor learned anything from Him. It's sweet now to think of Him, whereas before, I was only "doing religion" to keep from being lost. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 9906 Registered: 12-2003  |
I totally relate, Asurprise. And yes, Adventism's salvation is a process, not an accomplished fact. The process is ours, not God's. Colleen | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 340 Registered: 8-2008 |
On point 1, the Adventists actually put Ellen White above Scripture. They teach that she is the infallible interpreter of the Bible, and is thus above the Bible. FB#18 shows that Adventists use the Bible because Ellen White said to: Note the bolded portion: Adventists use the Bible because Ellen White says to. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 4880 Registered: 9-2006  |
Skillit old bean, that is just plumb sad! Old Ellen White was just plumb mean She said you got to send the conference all your green So I sent the conference all my bread But they said son, your still in the red! I wrote back and said, that's all I got They said son work an extra job and put - that -in- the pot! Well I worked and I worked till my fingers were rough They said son that just ain't enough! They said son your gonna go to hell as sure as your born If you don't send money plus all your corn! We notice you didn't keep the sabbath and thats too bad Not enough money and you've been had! Whats this I hear your preachin' grace? We gonna get right up in your face! You better straighten up or we'll take your house! Preach Adventism, and don't be a louse! Now here is what we're gonna do Take your wife and your kids and your living too! We'll give you a week to leave this state! We don't care if your sick and have a belly ache We'll band you from our remnant group We'll take your house, and even the porch stoop! So don’t mess us cause we got Ellen Your talk of grace we’ll be a quellin’ So get outta here, we don’t need you! A talkin’ grace, teachin’ our kids too! So I left cause they kicked me out And I looked for help around and about! I said Lord what will I do? And he said son don’t worry, I’ll see...you...through. Oh yeah! Git it on down!Rap it out!  River | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 4881 Registered: 9-2006 |
Sorry, got carried away there! I'm as happy as a birthday on December 25th. I done got a double dose of happy. I been slammed with a happy stick. |
