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| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 2022 Registered: 8-2004  |
“The gospel of Jesus Christ is the plan of salvation. It embraces all of the laws, principals, doctrines, rites, ordinances, acts, powers, authorities, and keys necessary to save and exalt men in the highest heaven hereafter. It is the covenant of salvation which the Lord makes with men on earth.” Any guesses? | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 1620 Registered: 5-2007  |
Mary, Since I had no idea, I cheated and asked Google. Wow! Fearless Phil | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 2023 Registered: 8-2004 |
I got it from an article that is discussing 'adding' to the definition of the gospel. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 6967 Registered: 3-2004  |
I googled it also as I did not know. I will prolong the secret and let someone else find the answer. Diana L (Message edited by Flyinglady on May 25, 2009) | ||
| Indy4now Registered user Username: Indy4now Post Number: 518 Registered: 2-2008  |
OK... I cheated too! But I should have guessed from the "highest heaven" where this came from. | ||
| Animal Registered user Username: Animal Post Number: 471 Registered: 7-2008  |
Can you say...MORMON....he he he he | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 9889 Registered: 12-2003  |
OH, Mary--so interesting!! Great thread! Colleen | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2761 Registered: 10-2004  |
Guess who wrote the following?
Jeremy | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 6969 Registered: 3-2004 |
That is Mormons also. I did a google search on it as I did not know. Diana | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2762 Registered: 10-2004 |
I find it very interesting that even an anti-Trinitarian false prophet, such as Joseph Smith (who wrote the above quote in the Title Page of The Book of Mormon), can write things such as that "Jesus is...the Eternal God." (By the way, I don't believe that EGW even ever wrote that Jesus "is the eternal God." In fact, she directly contrasted Jesus with "the eternal God" on more than one occasion.) Jeremy | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2763 Registered: 10-2004 |
Also, on a similar topic, I noticed recently that the Jehovah's Witnesses' New World Translation is finally available online: http://www.watchtower.org/bible/toc.htm And just looking through some of it, I confirmed what I had suspected--that it is much less corrupted than The Clear Word (which corrupts almost every part of the Bible). And yet who gets more criticism from Christian apologists for their corrupted "bible"? The JWs or the SDAs? I just find it interesting. Jeremy | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 9895 Registered: 12-2003 |
Jeremy, I hadn't been able to confirm that suspicion before, but I've also had that same one: the Clear Word is more corrupt than the New World Translation. Thank you. God is, I believe, bringing the truth increasingly to light, and I just thank Him and continue to pray that He will expose and break the spirit of Adventism. Colleen | ||
| Psalm107v2 Registered user Username: Psalm107v2 Post Number: 258 Registered: 10-2008  |
It is so true about the New World Translation vs the Clear Word. The NWT has some additions such as adding "a god" (referring to Jesus) to John 1:1 and the word "other" to Colossions 1:16 to make Jesus appaear to be a creation rather than divine God NWT: "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him" As much as they tried to corrupt the Bible they missed a whole bunch of places. When I meet with JWs or any non trinitarian I go to Revelation 21:6 (in whatever version they use)which shows God to be the Alpha and Omega and then to Revelation 1:8 that declares God to be the Alpha and Omega/First and the last and then go to Rev 1:18 that declares "I AM he that was alive and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. This can only apply to Jesus and speaks of His divinity as well as His death, burial, resurrection and victory over death & the power of hell The problem with the Clear Word Bible is that the author systematically adn deliberatly went to every possible place in the Bible and inserted SDA theology not only by changing the words but by inserting whole phrases and quotes from EGW--even the JWs did not go that far. In terms of the quote above. a little hint, whenever you see the word "exalted" it might be mormon. They have a whole theology that is based around man being exalted to the level of God. Enoch | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2765 Registered: 10-2004 |
Guess who wrote the following?
Jeremy | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 338 Registered: 8-2008 |
Jeremy, that would be none other than Ellen G. White. This woman clearly did not know the Gospel. | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2766 Registered: 10-2004 |
Ding! You win!  "...through a life of obedience, be finally exalted to the throne of God." (Ellen G. White, The Signs of the Times, 02-15-1883, "The Love of Christ," paragraph 7.) It sounds identical to Mormonism. Jeremy | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 9897 Registered: 12-2003 |
I have read a report copied from the newspaper accounts of the Mormon's burning of the Nauvoo printing press after the paper (the Nauvoo Expositor) printed an unfavorable account of the Mormons in the early 1840's. Those 16 Mormon men were tried, and the trial resulted in Joseph Smith's being interred where he was murdered in 1844. The 16 men were named in the report—interestingly, two of them had the last name of "Harmon". Ellen's mother, as a matter or record, died in Nauvoo. Moreover, Ellen's first cousin Agnes was married first to Joseph Smith's brother and later was married in a polygamous marriage to Joseph himself. After Joseph's death, Agnes served prominently in the services of the Nauvoo Mormon temple when it opened. This information about Agnes was recorded by Roger Coon, director of the White Estate, in the Adventist Review in 1999. Without doubt, there are startling similarities between Ellen's statements and Mormonism...Very telling quote, Jeremy. Colleen | ||
| Surfy Registered user Username: Surfy Post Number: 536 Registered: 11-2007 |
Colleen, That, without a doubt, is the scariest thing I have read in a while. Did dear Ellen have many negative things to say about the Mormons or did she give them a pass because her relatives were involved and also because her writings were similar? Inquiring minds want to know. Surfy | ||
| Psalm107v2 Registered user Username: Psalm107v2 Post Number: 260 Registered: 10-2008 |
I wasn't aware that she had relatives in the Mormon movement. I know she had the BofM in her library and copied from it..Granted both movements started in New england and affected many many people. Hmmm. I may have to do some more historical digging | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 1623 Registered: 5-2007 |
Wow! I to wasn't aware of the family connection with the Mormons. Phil | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 339 Registered: 8-2008 |
Perhaps this is why EGW tritheism ("the Three Worthies" and "The Heavently Trio") is identical to the Mormon tritheism, and why she taught Jesus and Satan were both archangels. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 6978 Registered: 3-2004 |
Thanks Colleen. I was not aware of the Mormon connection with EGW either. As for their similar beliefs, they came from the same place and it was not God. Diana L |
