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Leigh
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Post Number: 213
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone,
I came out of lurking mode to share this link
http://undermuchgrace.blogspot.com/ with the video excert from The Marks of a Cult.

The picture is what caught my attention, though.
leigh
Sunnimoreno
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Post Number: 17
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 6:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everything described in the video was demonstrated by the leaders of the church were I was disfellowshipped. I'm happy to have been guided to that site. Thanks Leigh.

Phil
Mommamayi
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Post Number: 742
Registered: 12-2007


Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 5:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for that Leigh!

I have enjoyed Vision Forum's catalogs for a number of years, but always had a bit of a guarded feeling. Of course we as former adventists sometimes have a tendency to be attracted to other cult like organizations, and I have only been out of adventism for a little over a year.

I was just thinking today about the song we learned in craderoll "When a mother says (cluck, cluck, moo, moo, me-owww, etc.), all the little (chicks, calves, kittens....) come running" as part of the "first time obedience", and "unquestioned submission" training.

Interesting thoughts to ponder...
Leigh
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Post Number: 214
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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 7:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mommamayi,
I know what you mean! I liked the catalogs, too. Although the last time i got one,I realized that my daughter would not fit the Vision Form image. She had a fort up in a tree!

Sometimes (speaking for myself here) we are still looking for that nice little package like we had in Adventism - the "perfect" church, oganization, or philosophy that seems to be doing everything right or "biblical" as they like to say. I found myself ignoring the little red flags because "it's not as bad as Adventism."
Mommamayi
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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You tell her to come right down out of that tree and put on her Priscilla Mullins outfit. :-) ha ha

Although I always loved feminine dresses and longed to be able to wear jewelry and read fairy tales, I loved climbing trees and our neighbors had a 3 story tree house. I used to pride myself in running or skating faster then the boys and finally had to have a talking to by my mom that I was getting too old to participate in wrestling matches. :-)

My daughters have all the dress up clothes for themseles and their Liberty doll. My son has a number of the Vision Forum items for boys too -throwing knife, sling shots, a sword, the wooden guns that shoot ping pong balls, etc. My word, we even have the mixing bowls and mother daughter aprons. :-) Fortunately I've never sprung for ordering the audio CD's that delve further into their philosophy.

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