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| Bigal Registered user Username: Bigal Post Number: 104 Registered: 9-2006  |
Anyone heard or read the book "The Called The Chosen - God Has Always Had A People" by Ken McFarland? My wife was handed a copy yesterday by the family who put up the money to get this published. It is forewarded by Ted Neal C. Wilson. He writes:
The author uses the argument that there has always been a people that have kept "the commandments of God" including the Albigensas and Waldenses. He in fact attempts to show that from Adam to present day Adventist there is a chain of unbroken Sabbath keeping. The book looks like it was originally published in 2006 through Review and Herald Graphics. My understanding is that the book is being repackaged with improved graphics and republished for a new push to get these in Adventist hands. This book is written directly to a Seventh-day Adventist. I can't help but feel it was put together to attempt to counter the information put out through LAM, FAF, etc. Any comments? If any have not read or heard of the book, I might be able to get more or at least point you in the direction of how you can obtain this book. I would only suggest you read it to better understand what agenda the lay SDA is up to. Alan | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 1611 Registered: 9-2006  |
Allens Quote: He in fact attempts to show that from Adam to present day Adventist there is a chain of unbroken Sabbath keeping. I don’t have access to the book but I can just imagine how it reads. This morning in Bible reading we were reading through Psalms 92 thru Psalms 97. One of my Adventist friends read Psalms 93 and when he finished, made the remark about how Psalms 93 is about the Sabbath and how fitting it was for today, today being the Sabbath. Can anyone see anything pertaining to the Sabbath in Psalms 93? I just sat there and reread the chapter three times trying to make sense of his statement. It is always amazing what my friends can pull out of the word that simply doesn’t seem to be there. It’s as if my friends read with a blank mind until they come to a place that might remotely resemble their beliefs, like a scanner l.e.d that turns on and off with data inflow. When they come to certain portions of scripture their light comes on and then goes dead again until the next bit of scripture that, as I say, even has the remotest chance of applying to the Sabbath beliefs. I tell you Allen, its just downright weird. When I am around them it makes me feel like I have just stepped into another dimension or something. River | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 237 Registered: 5-2007  |
River, I just read through Psa. 93 and tried to do it with the "eyes of an Adventist". I couldn't find the slightest reference to the Sabbath. As you say, it is wierd.  Phil | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 1612 Registered: 9-2006 |
TheyarethemixeduppestbunchapeopleIeverseenPhil.  River | ||
| Godssonjp Registered user Username: Godssonjp Post Number: 57 Registered: 1-2007 |
I just read Psalms 93. There's nothing there that says anything about the Sabbath. Even trying to look at it through the "eyes of an adventist" doesn't produce anything either. However, if you look at it through the eyes of an Adventist who wants to convince themself that Adventism is in scripture, you'll see it in the last verse. Ps. 93:5 Thy testimonies are very sure... KJV. Keyword - Testimonies. It's a stretch, I know. But this is how they do things. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6967 Registered: 12-2003  |
I just read Psalm 93, and I agree with Mary. From an Adventist perspective, the last verse is the key. In NIV it reads, "Your statues stand firm; holiness adorns your house for endless days, O Lord." In the KJV, the keyword is, as Mary said, "testimonies". Obvious--EGW...in the NIV "statutes" will do just as well. That's SDA code for "Ten Commandments". Therefore, the 10 Commandments stand firm, and holiness...get that? holiness "adorns your house for endless days, O Lord." Holiness is related to statutes--commandments...and the Sabbath is holy...so we see that this psalm is an affirmation of God's law and the fact that ALL Of IT is forever, including the fourth...and we know that the fourth commandment is the only one with reference to "holy", so this establishes that Sabbath is forever. This final "proof" comes at the end of four verses that declare God's might. His might is summarized by the holiness of Sabbath which we know is eternal and is the mark of of true worship of God. Get it? (Whew...but I'm pretty sure I'm right...! Remember, I have historic SDA in-laws whom I see regularly...) Colleen | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6968 Registered: 12-2003 |
Alan, I'd love to know how to obtain that book...is it available through the ABC? Colleen | ||
| Bigal Registered user Username: Bigal Post Number: 105 Registered: 9-2006 |
Colleen, I don't think so. We have no ABC near us here. There is an SDA owned health store just up the road from my home. I will check there first. The store will probably be closed by the time I get off work due to "guarding the edges." It think this book is just now being reproduced in numbers that will place it in a wider distribution amongst the remnant Let me do a little more research and I will get back to you? Alan | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6970 Registered: 12-2003 |
Great. Colleen | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 666 Registered: 1-2003  |
I believe the Talmund (Jewish Writings/Commentary) speak of Ps. 93 as the Sabbath Psalm namely at the morning sacrifice. I know I've seen it mentioned as that at some services I've attended. In Him, Richard | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 239 Registered: 5-2007 |
According to DE BURGH, ERNEST CHARLES (1892-1977), journalist, commentary of Psa. 93:
Notice that it was a tradition to use this Psalm on the day before the Sabbath. Since Jesus Christ is our "New Creation" and it makes no reference to a day of the week, it is really foreshadowing our rest in Jesus, not a day of the week. So, with a little research, you can "turn the tables" on any Adventist who wants to use this Psalm to defend their keeping of the seventh day Sabbath.  Phil |
