| Author | Message | ||
| Godssonjp Registered user Username: Godssonjp Post Number: 56 Registered: 1-2007 |
I thought this was interesing. I wonder what Adventists would say about this. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21219366/?GT1=10450 | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 1087 Registered: 8-2004  |
LOL! I'm glad they were able to save that young man's life. That was some good thinking. Talk about thinking outside the box! Mary | ||
| Martinc Registered user Username: Martinc Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2006 |
They would probably say that a doctor can prescribe alcohol as an antidote for a dire situation. Now, I just checked the White Estate's search engine. Nowhere does EGW specifically discourage drinking ethylene glycol. The Time of Trouble requires extreme planning. So perhaps the brethren will look the other way when you put that case of vodka next to the quart of anti-freeze in your TOT stash. You know, someone may spike your green drink. There's always a way around the rules. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6964 Registered: 12-2003  |
Martin, you make me laugh! Colleen | ||
| Zjason Registered user Username: Zjason Post Number: 84 Registered: 11-2005  |
Lime Schnapps. When I was a heathen in college my freshman year, my next door dorm neighbor had a stash of this in his fridge. I had toooooo much of it one night. Makes me queasy thinking about it to this day. I think it had a green tint to it, too. | ||
| Stevendi Registered user Username: Stevendi Post Number: 252 Registered: 10-2006 |
Zjason, Had the same experience with orange vodka. What was I thinking? I'm sticking with the grapes, it's more Biblical. steve | ||
| Larry Registered user Username: Larry Post Number: 245 Registered: 5-2007 |
Here's another revealing article about usage of alcohol. | ||
| Larry Registered user Username: Larry Post Number: 246 Registered: 5-2007 |
3 drinks an hour for three whole days? Where is the signup sheet for that? | ||
| Larry Registered user Username: Larry Post Number: 247 Registered: 5-2007 |
Reminds me of some of my college experience that is not blacked out! | ||
| Mommyk Registered user Username: Mommyk Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2007  |
Steve said: "I'm sticking with the grapes, it's more Biblical." LOL! Ha ha ha he he he!! Funny but true!!! Tomorrow is our 11th wedding anniversary and for the first time my husband and I will enjoy a glass a wine together with our dinner...and we won't have to feel any guilt about it either! Kristen | ||
| Martinc Registered user Username: Martinc Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2006 |
Kristen, the Bible probably allows each of you to enjoy your own glass, even for the first time, and on other days besides. Some of us consider every day alike. Also, beer was a useful part of the Old Covenant: it could be purchased with tithe funds. Happy Anniversary, and Cheers! | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 4379 Registered: 3-2004  |
Kristen and Husband, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR 11th wedding anniversary. Enjoy your glass of wine as you celebrate. I wish you may more anniversaries Diana | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 538 Registered: 5-2002 |
Grapes aren't necessarily more Biblical. Haven't you ever heard of a grain offering? I (and the Preacher) tell you to enjoy the fruit of the vine and your labor with a glad heart with your loved one. Have a drink on me. And add a medium rare ribeye while you're at it. "So I commended pleasure, for there is nothing good for a man under the sun except to eat and to drink and to be merry, and this will stand by him in his toils {throughout} the days of his life which God has given him under the sun." Ecclesiasties 8:15 Talk about a "proof" text... Happy 11th, Congratulations! | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 238 Registered: 5-2007  |
With reference to the debate concerning "wine" versus "grape juice" in the Bible. Larry's post #245 linked us to a very good article. To go along with that, I recall someone linked us to the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bramwell_Welch The point of this article is that non-alcoholic grape juice hadn't even been invented until the year of 1869. Fresh squeezed grape juice ferments within hours of being pressed. Science confirms that the Bible is talking about alcohol when wine is mentioned. I can testify to this from personal experience. For over two years (1950-1953) I lived at Angwin within a mile of the Pacific Union College on a farm that had a twenty acre vineyard. We pressed, pasteurized and bottle the grape juice and peddled it to all our good SDA friends. What didn't get pasteurized immediately fermented. Only a blind fool thinks the Bible is referring to anything other than alcohol when wine is mentioned.  Of course, the bottom line is that Ellen G. White lied. Phil | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 539 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hardcore Ellenites would likely take a position that Jesus the Creator didn't have to wait for non-alcoholic grape juice to be invented. I think the fresh grape juice argument actually diminishes the miracle at Cana, in the same way many SDA doctrines diminish the divinity of Jesus Christ. After all, what is the greater miracle, creating fresh grape juice, or grape juice that has already fermented? | ||
| Mommyk Registered user Username: Mommyk Post Number: 50 Registered: 4-2007 |
Thanks everyone for the anniversary wishes. I meant to say that my husband Chris and I will share a BOTTLE of wine at dinner...not a glass! he he We WILL enjoy!!! | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6975 Registered: 12-2003 |
Happy Anniversary, Kristen and Chris! (Hey, you're "Kris" and "Chris"—do people ever call you that? Cool!) Colleen | ||
| Randyg Registered user Username: Randyg Post Number: 493 Registered: 12-2004 |
Happy Anniversary, White or Red? Some much to learn...to little time. Interesting the new freedoms we share....without guilt!! Enjoy (Message edited by randyg on October 12, 2007) | ||
| Treasurehntr Registered user Username: Treasurehntr Post Number: 42 Registered: 7-2007 |
My good SDA cousin gave me two bottles of Good California wine on my visit three years ago. I actually drink less now that i'm ex-sda. Only twice or so a year. Me and the boys get together to watch Wrestlemania on pay per view and tie one on. I'll quit now before i do my Randy Savage impression. | ||
| Stevendi Registered user Username: Stevendi Post Number: 255 Registered: 10-2006 |
Phil, You said: "Only a blind fool thinks the Bible is referring to anything other than alcohol when wine is mentioned." I'll drink to that. steve | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 4380 Registered: 3-2004 |
Kris and Chris, So you are having a drink for each of us congratulating you, it seems. That takes a whole bottle or more. Have a lovely anniversary. Our awesome God provides us with the nicest things for our pleasure, even wine. Diana | ||
| Larry Registered user Username: Larry Post Number: 248 Registered: 5-2007 |
Former sda's want to leave the church so they can go out and sin! (tongue in cheek) I still prefer the 3 drinks per hour for 72 hours. Frat parties got nothing on that kinda drinkin! | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 1616 Registered: 9-2006  |
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