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Flyinglady
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Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I move this every few months to remind all of us about the prayer circle. I also want to acquaint the newcomers with this. This is when all of us, in our own home pray for all SDAs.
Please join us.

WEEKLY REMINDER FOR THE PRAYER CIRCLE.
TIME:
1. Every Friday at sundown in your time zone.
2. Saturday afternoon, 1 PM Pacific time, 4 PM East Coast time and whatever the time is in your time zone.
WHO DO WE PRAY FOR:
1. All SDAs from the GC down to the smallest church in the world.
2. All unchurched members. All the agnostics, atheists and unbelievers who are former SDAs.
3. All those who are coming under the influence of SDAs through such things as the SDA friends, Revelation Seminars and baptismal classes.
4. All Christians who think SDAs are just another Christian church.
5. All those writing on R/S, Spectrum, CARM and similar sites.
6. ESPECIALLY SDA children who are being exposed to The Clear Word for Kids, history of EGW at the early age of first grade and younger and other distinctive SDA doctrine that is not Biblical.
7. We pray for each other, that God will use us to teach others His love and about what Jesus did for each of us and that the Holy Spirit fill us.
8. Dirk Anderson and the hassle he is receiving from the White estate. That God will be glorified in what ever happens and that Adventism will be exposed for what they really teach.
9. Dale Ratzlaff's project of contacting all SDA ministers in the SDA conference where he lives. Go Dale!! God be with you as well as our prayers.
10. Lurkers who are in the process of leaving the SDA church.
11. Those SDAs reading the the new SDA book(it does not deserve the title Bible) with EGW's books intermixed with the Bible.
12. All those receiving Proclamation! magazine. That they will be convicted in their heart, mind and soul of the Bible truths and will search the Bible for themselves to know the truth of the Bible, God's love letter to all of us.
13. Colleen and Richard Tinker and all who work with Life Assurance Ministries that God will protect them in all ways.
14. For the Spanish version of Proclamacion and the prayer circle, and forum.
15. The Danish former Adventists and forum.
16. Seventh day Adventist students in SDA boarding schools.
Let us pray as a family with Jesus Christ in the midst of us and the Holy Spirit taking our prayers to the Father. We could not have it any better.
He is always so AWESOME.
Diana
Reb
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Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 2:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excellent prayer list, Diana.

So the White Estate is still hassling Bro. Anderson? He's exposed the TRUTH so I can see why they wouldn't like it.

I am forever greatful to Bro. Anderson, it was his website that really got me questioning Adventism. I was having one of my episodes where I was feeling terrorized by the Sunday Laws, and this was just after my son told me how in Bible class at the Adventist school the teacher had described in graphic detail about how they would be tortured after the Sunday Laws came. I was searching the internet for info about the Sunday Laws to see just how soon they might be coming and I came across Bro. Anderson's "National Sunday Law" article online.
It convinced me that the Sunday Law teaching was total hooey. Then I saw the rest of the website.

Not soon after that was the infamous 1844 Sababth School quarterly and after that I no longer believed in Adventism.

Praying for all those on the list and especially Bro. Anderson. I believe the Lord used him to help me see that Adventism is false.

(Message edited by Reb on August 03, 2007)
Honestwitness
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Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would like to share some things that I believe are answers to the prayers of this prayer circle.

Recently, I had an opportunity to visit in the home of an Adventist couple who have been my friends for several years. They are fully aware of my leaving the church almost two years ago and my faithful attendance at a Sunday church since then.

The wife made a couple of statements about something she had heard about the Sabbath on an Adventist broadcast and then asked me what I thought about it. We had a very good discussion about some of our theological differences. The husband staunchly defended his stance on the seventh-day Sabbath, but the wife was more open to hearing my beliefs on the matter.

After the husband had firmly shared his position, I politely reminded him that I had shown honor and respect for my husband and the church members by carefully studying Adventist doctrine for the past 18 years. I then asked him if he would show me the same honor and respect by listening to my views. He said, "Of course," and before he let me go on, he said, "I just want you to know that whatever you say, I will still love you."

Now wasn't that good? It really warmed my heart.

Then I proceeded to explain to him and his wife my views on the seventh-day Sabbath and how it is no longer binding on Christians.

I asked them to read me to out of their KJV Bibles Romans 14:5-6a:
_________

"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day [alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth [it] unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard [it].”
_________

I stated to them that my interpretation of this passage is that both Sabbatarian Christians and non-Sabbatarian Christians are able to Biblically honor God by their observance of a day or non-observance of a day and that God is honored either way.

The wife understood immediately, and then drew our attention to verse 10:
_________

“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.”
_________

But the husband continued to defend his view that the Sabbath is still binding. I asked him to read again the second part of the second sentence in verse 6, which he did.

_________

“He that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.”
_________

I discovered something very interesting as he put his interpretation on that sentence. He said it means that whoever refuses to honor the seventh-day Sabbath is not honoring the Lord. It suddenly dawned on me how his bias was causing him to interpret that verse.

I asked him to go back up to verse 5 and note that Paul wouldn’t have used the phrase, “Let every man be persuaded in his own mind,” and then tell the Romans not to judge each other, if he were trying to tell the Romans we must all honor the seventh-day Sabbath. I didn’t see any indication that the husband was able to grasp my meaning, but the wife very obviously did grasp it, which is a huge blessing to me.

I also asked them to read to me John 5:18:

“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”

I shared with them that I compared this passage to the one in Numbers 15, where the man had been stoned for picking up sticks on the Sabbath day. I stated that it was God (Jesus) who ordered the execution of the offending man in Numbers, and that it was the very same God (Jesus) who told the crippled man to pick up his bed in John 5.

I pointed out that John did not say that the Jews THOUGHT that Jesus had broken the Sabbath, or that they THOUGHT he had made himself equal with God. But rather, John said Jesus HAD broken the Sabbath and HAD made himself equal with God.

I explained that Jesus did this to inaugurate the New Covenant. I explained that circumcision was the entrance sign and the weekly Sabbath was the repeatable sign of the Old Covenant. Then I stated that the entrance sign of the New Covenant is baptism and the repeatable sign is the Lord’s supper. I reminded them of how Jesus spoke of not putting new wine into old wineskins, indicating He was giving a new covenant that would not fit into the packaging of the old one.

We ended our time together on a happy note and agreed we would like to get together again and have a Bible study. I may be sitting quietly and calmly typing at this computer keyboard, but on the inside, I am jumping up and down for joy at these developments.

I am so honored that the Lord allowed me to speak these things to this precious Adventist couple. I am convinced the Lord orchestrated this visit and the timing of it. I am also convinced the Lord is the One who enabled me to express these thoughts so clearly. I am also very grateful their minds and hearts were open to listening to these things from me.

I believe this is an answer to our faithful prayers. I believe the Lord is doing a mighty work in Adventism that will become more evident as time goes on. So be encouraged in your prayers, dear brothers and sisters in Christ.

Honestwitness
Flyinglady
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Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 2:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for sharing this with us, Honestwitness. This is an answer to our prayer circle. Look at all the new comers we have to FAF. God is working on the hearts and minds of all SDAs. I am so convinced that He is so awesome.
Diana
Flyinglady
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

REMINDER FOR THE PRAYER CIRCLE.
The list is in the first post here. We pray for all of these people.
Prayer times are Friday at Sundown in our own time zones and Saturday afternoon at 1 PM Pacific time/4 PM East coast time and whatever the time is in your time zone.
We have an awesome God who is answering our prayers. Let us keep praying.
Diana

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