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| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 309 Registered: 5-2007 |
I've been mentioning my coming "out of the closet" that I am now a Seventh Day Baptist to Adventist friends that I trust. And the reaction so far has been positive and supportive. It just dawned on me. A Methodist that switches to being a Lutheran or vice versa doesn't have to be "in a closet" about it or would say they "came out of the closet" to people they trust. Hmmmmm. Only in Adventism. Just reinforces the idea that Adventism IS a cult. | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 666 Registered: 6-2006  |
Reb, recently we had a handfull of people join another church in town. My church is a small Lutheran church that has a small budget, and not very many programs to offer. So this little group started attending this huge Baptist church in town that is known nationally and has many groups and classes and clubs to join. I didn't blame them at all. We of course miss seeing them each week, but we're all happy that they found what they needed in a church. This is typical for "regular" churches. In fact, each Thanksgiving the community churches come together for worship that day. Lutheran, Baptist, Catholic, Church of Christ, and I think there are a couple others. The invitation is extended to everyone, but I've never seen the SDA church join in. No need for closets!  Leigh Anne (Message edited by grace_alone on July 10, 2007) | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 310 Registered: 5-2007 |
The answer as to why the SDA church didn't join in is obvious, isn't it. 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count! LOL | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 1030 Registered: 9-2006  |
Jesus said in Matthew 16:17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. The reason for this Reb is because there one of two ways that man will see, one is through the eyes of the Spirit and the other is through the eyes of the flesh. These folk are blind as a bat to the things of the Spirit, Reb, once you are born again you will no longer be welcomed by the flesh, you can try to go to the bars and night clubs but you will no longer fit in and they will know you don’t belong there, it doesn’t take long for the Adventist to know you have become a stranger to their land in which they inhabit, you don’t belong there and they don’t belong where you are, maybe even your wife as much as it pains me to say this to you, if you have been truly born again you will not belong where the flesh of Adventism rules. You did not come out of any closet, God has built you a new and completely different closet and whether you like the situation you find yourself in or not you can no longer really have any part in their world because you are not of this world any longer. I thank God he chose to save me and my wife at the same time and I am praying for your situation. You might as well get used to being at odds with the fleshly world that is Adventism, things ain’t going to change unless he changes them or you choose them over God and I am confident that that will not happen. River | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 314 Registered: 5-2007 |
Good points, River. You are spot on as always. But ya know what, my wife is coming around with this. I'm just loving her and showing her a better Christian walk and she's little by little(baby steps here) coming around. She admits herself she doesn't agree with some things in Adventism and "ignores what she doesn't agree with. God is faithful and I can see the day coming where my wife will be attending SDB church with me. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 1031 Registered: 9-2006 |
Mark 11:22 So Jesus answered and said to them, "Have faith in God. Mark 11:23 "For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be removed and be cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. Mark 11:24 "Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them. Reb, I know you do, God see's the yearning of your heart my brother and he will answer your prayers. River | ||
| Loneviking Registered user Username: Loneviking Post Number: 561 Registered: 7-2000 |
Reb, are going to the SDB church in Riverside, CA.? My wife and I are good friends of the youth pastor and his wife there. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3979 Registered: 3-2004  |
I have a bunch of relatives in Riverside. Maybe when I visit them I can meet you at the SDB church, Reb. Diana | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 349 Registered: 5-2007 |
Yes, Loneviking, that's the SDB Church I go to. | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 350 Registered: 5-2007 |
Sounds, good to me, Diana. I still don't get to go there every Sabbath, as sometimes I still have to attend SDA church with my wife. (Baby steps here, she's accepting this so far but I don't want to rock the boat too much). But I am looking forward to the time when I will be able to attend there every Sabbath. | ||
| Loneviking Registered user Username: Loneviking Post Number: 562 Registered: 7-2000 |
Reb, you should be warmly welcomed there. They used to have quite a few 'formers'. Our friends have moved on to found 'Maranatha Community Church' (it's SDB as well) in Colton. If it's close to you, you might want to consider checking it out. | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 374 Registered: 5-2007 |
I have been warmly welcomed there. I really like it. Colton isn't much if any closer for me than Riverside. I live in El Monte, which is just outside of Los Angeles. | ||
| Loneviking Registered user Username: Loneviking Post Number: 563 Registered: 7-2000 |
El Monte? You do drive a ways to go to church! | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 375 Registered: 5-2007 |
I am so HUNGRY for the Gospel that it doesn't bother me in the least. The nearest SDB church to me is in Gardena but I don't know anyone there, and I am making friends at the one in Riverside. | ||
| 91steps Registered user Username: 91steps Post Number: 159 Registered: 8-2005  |
When I left the SDA religion earlier this year several people that I used to work with at the GC stopped taking my calls or replying to my e-mails. Even though I am now attending a GREAT Messianic Jewish Congregation, I am an outcast. It is almost 2 years since I left work at the GC and I have stopped by there several times and each time it is harder and harder for me, too many bad memories. | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 562 Registered: 11-2005 |
Reb said, It only seems to be organizations that refer to people "on the outside" by prefacing the name of their own organization with "non-". Let's play a game. Which of these sound most familiar to you? non-Adventist non-Lutheran non-Baptist non-Mormon non-Catholic non-Methodist non-Greek Orthodox non-Evangelical Free non-Salvation Army Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6525 Registered: 12-2003  |
I had a wonderful friend in the 80's--she was a very bright retired anesthesiologist who got married for the first time when she was over 70. She married a very fun, articulate widower who had been SDA as a child but had left. She was a liberal Adventist. I was eating Sabbath lunch with her one day, and she confided that her "Jimbo" was an "N.O.P.". I looked at her blankly, and she said confidentially, "You know, 'Not Our People'! You know how it is--if they're not one of "our people", they're 'N.O.P.s'." Well, I found that very funny, and I still find myself thinking "NOP" when I think of the way Adventists divide themselves from—well, the rest of us! Colleen |
