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| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 213 Registered: 5-2007 |
I think I mentioned when I shared my story on another thread that I was a Baha'i before I became an Adventist. In fact I spent longer(16 yrs.) as a Baha'i than I did as an Adventist(14 yrs.) Towards the end of my time as an Adventist, before I found the Gospel and a Bible Believing, Christ centred church(7th Day Baptist), the realisation that I could not pass the IJ no matter what(even EGW couldn't IMHO)and that if I were alive during the Time of Trouble I probably wouldn't make it either. That coupled with the fact that in 14 yrs. as an Adventist I was never taught the Gospel and didn't hear enough about Christ(it was more EGW and Old Testament), that I was getting the thought about just going back to being a Baha'i again. The Baha'is also sprang out of 1844 but instead of an IJ beginning on 10/22/1844, the Baha'is beleive a new Manifestation(as they call them) of God, called the Bab(which means door or gate in Farsi) appeared. In other words, the Baha'is believe Miller was right, he was just looking in the wrong corner of the world. I decided since as an Adventist(and I still thought other Churches were Babylon at that point in time) I had no hope of an afterlife anyway, I was ready to gamble on going back to being a Baha'i(if not actively at least in my heart)figuring if the Bahai's are wrong and the Adventists are right I have nothing to lose anyway, it's a wash. I wouldn't have had eternal life as an Adventist, and at least the Baha'i faith is a lot more beautiful and pleasant. I can't believe I came this close to throwing eternal life away! I shudder to think of what woudl have happened if I had not heard the true Gospel, I might have really been "lost". I posted this here because I frankly don't care if any Adventists lurking on here read these. Maybe it will hit home with one or more of them I just want to praise God that I found the Gospel and I'm NOT giving it up to go back to Adventism no matter how much pressure or static I get. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 3891 Registered: 3-2004  |
Reb, Remember this is a place for TRANSITIONING SDAa. Say what you want to say. You will never know if some SDA reads what you wrote and tells themself, Hey that is me!! I am so Glad God found you before you went back to BaHai(spelling). Welcome home brother. Diana | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 215 Registered: 5-2007 |
Thanks, Diana | ||
| Jim02 Registered user Username: Jim02 Post Number: 124 Registered: 5-2007 |
Reb, I am still dragging my own chains. So we make some messes here. If you can't be honest and open here, where can you? | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 6167 Registered: 12-2003  |
Reb, that is so interesting. Praise God for revealing Himself to you! And Jim...you're totally right. If you can't be honest and open here, where can you? This is the place to say what you're experiencing. Our details differ, but our big-picture experiences are so much the same. I'm glad we serve a sovereign God! He wastes nothing and redeems everything we submit to Him. Colleen | ||
| U2bsda Registered user Username: U2bsda Post Number: 500 Registered: 11-2004 |
Reb, Thanks for that info. I had no idea that Baha'i came out of 1844. I had a Baha'i friend many years ago when I was an SDA and didn't know that we had that in common. Hmm...did any other groups come out of the 1844 disappointment? | ||
| Raven Registered user Username: Raven Post Number: 775 Registered: 7-2004  |
Here's a link explaining the history of the Baha'i. It says they began May 23, 1844. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1'%C3%AD_Faith I doubt Reb meant they had any direct connection with William Miller's movement or that they even knew he existed. The movement began in Iran, and they beleive in progressive revelation. The way I understand what I read is that they just believed the current revelation or manifestation of God for that time (1844) was the Baha'i beginning. It also says the Baha'i generally don't believe the next "manifestation" will occur until at least 1,000 years after the 1844 one. Doesn't look like they believe in a Second Coming of Jesus (especially since they don't believe in a literal Trinity), and it doesn't mean they had any connection to the William Miller Movement. It was just yet another (of many) false movement that arose in the 1800's that happened to share a couple of things in common with the William Miller movement--namely the same year, and both believed in "progressive revelation." | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 222 Registered: 5-2007 |
Correct, Raven there was no connection between the 2, but the Bahai's know who Miller was and believe he was right, just looking the wrong place. The Bahai's intrepret the 2300 "days" in Daniel in a similar was that the Adventists do. | ||
| Raven Registered user Username: Raven Post Number: 776 Registered: 7-2004 |
You're right, Reb - I looked it up. While I'm pretty sure the original Baha'i didn't know anything about William Miller, today they do know about him and say he was right about the time and the event, he just didn't understand what "the return of Christ" meant. The Baha'i believe when a Manifestation happens, that is a return of a previous Manifestation. That can be found here: http://www.planetbahai.org/cgi-bin/articles.pl?article=60 Although I still think it's not totally meshing. William Miller's date was 10/22/1844 and the Baha'i have the date as May 23, 1844 and yet they say they agree. I guess only a few months off works for them. | ||
| Reb Registered user Username: Reb Post Number: 224 Registered: 5-2007 |
Wasn't the May 23, 1844 a prior date Miller had set? October 22, 1844 was not the first one. | ||
| Raven Registered user Username: Raven Post Number: 777 Registered: 7-2004 |
I've only heard of a March date before the 10/22/1844 date. When I look at the Wikipedia reference on William Miller, it says he first set a general time period of March 21, 1843 to March 21, 1844. When that passed, he changed the date to April 18, 1844 using a different Jewish calendar (Karaite instead of Rabbinic). Then when that date passed, he finally changed it to October 22, 1844. I don't know how accurate Wikipedia's information is because there's nothing in there about changing it from 1843 to 1844. When I Google "William Miller" and "May 23, 1844" the only references that come up are directly connected to the Baha'i and not to any date William Miller set. |
