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Lucybugg
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Username: Lucybugg
Post Number: 37
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 8:12 am: |     |
River..what a suggestion..God has blessed me through you! Thank you...I'm going to do it! Thank you Lord for River and for using him to speak to me and bless me! |
River
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Username: River
Post Number: 948
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 8:19 am: | |
Lord I am holding up Reb and his wife, lucybugg and family today (holding up hands) I am holding them up before you today, thank you Jesus for recognizing me and them in this foolish act of faith. Thank you Jesus. Amen
River |
River
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Username: River
Post Number: 949
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 8:20 am: | |
Call me crazy, call me lazy but don't forget to call me for dinner! |
Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 207
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 9:20 am: | |
Thanks for the prayer, River! |
Lucybugg
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Username: Lucybugg
Post Number: 38
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 9:59 am: | |
Yes, thank you very much! |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 6159
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 10:20 am: | |
River, thank you for reminding me to hold people up. I'm going to do that, too. And Lucy, thank you also for you wise words about just using Scripture. It is God's word that will not return to Him empty. That is really the only thing available to us that has power. It IS the sword of the Spirit.
Praying for you, Reb, Lucy, River...
Colleen |
Olga
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Username: Olga
Post Number: 68
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 1:49 pm: | |
River, thank you for your "holding them up" suggestion; I had a powerful urge to do just that for my family (I did and I thanked God for preparing the way and for putting his words not mine in my mouth...) Tomorrow I'll be leaving to visit with them for several weeks---I've been praying hard and have been anxious for a long time about my visit....God is faithful and he used you to strengthen my faith just now.
THANK YOU!! |
River
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Username: River
Post Number: 950
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 3:22 pm: | |
Praying for you today Olga, I pray that God will uplift you during your time there, that they will be blessed by your being there.
Also praying for you Colleen and your family.
River |
Insearchof
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Username: Insearchof
Post Number: 120
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 3:47 pm: | |
Reb,
I am keeping you and your wife in my prayers. It is easy to offer opinion about what you should or should not do, easy to make dogmatic statements about expressing your freedom in Christ, etc.
I have not been where you are relative to how you see Jesus (and your freedom in His Gospel) and your wife seeing it strongly some other way, specifically where the Sabbath is concerned. God has spared us that issue in our home.
It seems to me that God has provided here. You are happy and being blessed in the SDB church. His Grace is amazing in that you can experience the true Joy of Salvation and at the same time not have to deal with a Saturday/Sunday observance issue in your home because your wife is at some level of peace because you still observe the Sabbath.
How great is God that she is able to accept that? I know many SDAs that would not even accept the SDB church eventhough they are Sabbatarians.
I believe that by the grace of God you are able still to be the leader in your home and keep a level of peace with your wife. Praise God!
In His time, He will lead her where she needs to be and you must remain His vessel of grace to her.
You mentioned several times that you are not smart enough to argue and debate issues like the Sabbath. So what? I have yet to meet a former SDA that was won over by arguement. It is only the Holy Spirit that can open the eyes of the blind.
Be strong and of good courage!
ISO |
River
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Username: River
Post Number: 953
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 8:32 pm: | |
Now I know why you and me are so slow in a debate Reb, have you been chomping pork rinds? 
Quote from Ellen
A meat diet changes the disposition and strengthens animalism. We are composed of what we eat, and eating much flesh will diminish intellectual activity. Students would accomplish much more in their studies if they never tasted meat. When the animal part of the human agent is strengthened by meat eating, the intellectual powers diminish proportionately. A religious life can be more successfully gained and maintained if meat is discarded, for this diet stimulates into intense activity lustful propensities, and enfeebles the moral and spiritual stature.
Counsels on Diet and Foods,
p. 389.
River |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 6163
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 11:35 pm: | |
Can you believe it? That paragraph, River, helps explain (but only helps explain) why vegetarianism is so hard to overcome when an Adventist has never eaten meat. There's deep subliminal fear that meat will deplete one's strength and mental acuity and will bring on cancer. The indoctrination is very deep.
Colleen |
Stevendi
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Username: Stevendi
Post Number: 142
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 5:34 am: | |
Adventists are like any other nonbeliever in the gospel - they have blinders on. They simply refuse to let go of the role as agent of their own destiny. There is nothing seen as worthy of repentance, no confession to be made (we have truth), no new light to be gained (Laodicea). Indeed, it is impossible to win a debate, but it is a lovely thing to prayerfully and carefully plant a seed now and then. It is the Holy Spirit that will provide nourishment and growth that leads one to doubt a "case-closed" mindset religion. The typical Adventist is in desperate need of discovering the difference between religion and relation, which was the same dark cave that the Jews were in in Jesus' day.
Our only "job" is to testify of the joy and peace of Christ. Our humble refusal to engage in doctrinal debate and to privately pray for individuals will do more "damage" than our intellectual stupidity.
Lucy, you are wise in saying "let's study together". That is the fork in the road to willingness or refusal to let the Spirit go to work.
steve |
Flyinglady
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Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 3886
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 6:22 am: | |
As I am reading this thread I am thinking how long God took to get to me. I am thinking of the time in church when a pastor only quoted EGW and I thought, if there are any non SDAs here they will never believe because that is not the Bible. My son was 5-6 years old at the time. That was about 30 years ago. Ever since then I never liked to hear her quoted in church. I did not reject her until I learned about the plagiarism and all the other stuff about her.
So, let all of us remember our Prayer Chain each Friday and Saturday for SDAs and in between also.
Diana
ps: That was in the Alexandria, VA church. I was there right after Jess left there. |
Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 209
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 7:43 am: | |
I the Jess you're talking about Jess Dixon, Diana? I read his story and I am appalled at the way the Adventists treated him. |
Flyinglady
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Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 3889
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 7:50 am: | |
Yes Reb, it is that Jess. He was at that church about the time my older sister was in VA. I think she did not attend it until after he left.
Diana |
Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 211
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 8:05 am: | |
When I read Jess' story one thing that stood out was, Where was Christ, in the way the Adventists treated him? |
Flyinglady
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Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 3892
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 9:06 am: | |
Yes, I agree. But as I write I think, Christ was holding him up while all this was happening.
Diana |
