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Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 74
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 8:44 am: |     |
Amen, Phil
God is working in my situation right now. My wife seems to be accepting my transition to the Seventh Day Baptist Church. She doesn't agree with Baptist beliefs and thinks the Baptists have more "errors" than the SDA, but because I am continuing to keep the Sabbath(my preference) she is not objecting too strenuously.
Also she is noticing that my Christian walk has been stronger since mentally and spiritually leaving the SDA church. I have made it very clear to her that I will not disturb her beliefs or try to convert her, I am just finding that the Seventh Day Baptist Church works for me and feeds me spritually where the SDA church does not.
Looks like she is coming to the point where she will accept my compromise. I switch to the Seventh Day Baptist Church, but still attend the SDA church of HER choice with her every other Sabbath. |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 5917
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 8:02 pm: | |
Phil, what a great reminder. Thank you.
Colleen |
Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 87
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:50 am: | |
I just wanted to respond to what Larry posted above.
The problem is my wife would NEVER accept my switching to a "Sunday" church. And yes, even though the SDB church still believes the Sabbath is a commandment, they don't have the unhealthy and unbalanced attitude the SDAs do. The SDBs, like other Christians correctly believe the Holy Spirit is the seal of God and do not believe the Sabbath is the "final test" like the SDAs do and do not consider worshipping on Sunday the "Mark of the Beast" like SDAs do.
If I had not found(and I believe it was by the Lord's leading) the SDB church I would still be trapped in the SDA church with NO WAY OUT.
At least this way I have found a way out that my wife can at least "hold her nose" and accept which she would NEVER in a million years do if I went to a "Sunday" church.
At least the SDB church is free of the toxic doctrines of the SDAs. And remember what Paul said in Rom 14 goes both ways, it's just as ok to worship God on Saturday as it is on Sunday.
Please try to understand where I am coming from. My wife is really hardcore, 3rd generation SDA and this is a moral victory that she is at least letting me switch to the SDB church(only because they worship on Sabbath).
I do not criticise y'all for going to Church on Sunday I see NOTHING wrong with that. Please don't criticise me for going on the Sabbath. Given my home situation I don't have a choice and at least the SDB church lacks the toxicity of the SDA. |
Raven
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Username: Raven
Post Number: 762
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 10:22 am: | |
Reb, I don't criticize you at all for worshiping on Sabbath at the SDB church. However, never say Never!  I'm sure there are many on this forum who were multi-generational SDA's who no one would have dreamed in a million years would give up the Sabbath and be okay with worshiping on Sunday (or any other day of the week) with non-Sabbath-keepers. At one time I was one of those, although the last several years in the SDA church, I was much less rigid about that. I personally know of others who would match your description of your wife's stance on the Sabbath who are now former SDA's.
My husband (Ric_b) was a convert into SDAism who recognized most of the problems early on and stayed because he figured I'd be there for life. He was incredibly surprised when the veil was finally removed.
(Message edited by Raven on May 29, 2007) |
Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 90
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 10:57 am: | |
Good point, Raven. Never say never. Maybe I should modify it as "for now".
I'll just trust God and see where he leads and who knows? |
Helovesme2
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Username: Helovesme2
Post Number: 939
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 11:14 am: | |
Reb,
Home situations can be sticky. I respect your choice to attend a SDB church instead of SDA or a 'Sunday' church. I highly respect your choice to do as much as is in your power to live peaceably with your wife and at the same time be true to your convictions and the leading of the Holy Spirit.
At the same time, perhaps do to my own faith journey, I'm concerned about your 'my wife allows' or 'won't allow' statements. You and your wife are both adults. There is plenty of room for mutual respect but each of you will stand before God alone (or, better, hid in Jesus - but still it will not be together with each other).
When God asks for an accounting of what you have done with the time He gave you, "I would have done ---- but my wife (or my church, or my parents, or my friends, or whoever) wouldn't let me" will get you nowhere. Whatever is not of faith (being based on fear, or pride, or longing to be loved, or any other motivator) is sin.
I'm not saying you are doing wrong, but I AM saying watch yourself and ask God to make clear how to live in Truth and Reality, to walk by faith and not by fear, and to surrender what your wife (and your friends, and your church) thinks about you to Him. Where that takes you is between Him and you.
Blessings,
Mary |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 5922
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 11:49 am: | |
Amen, Mary. Wonderful post. And Reb—down underneath all the anger and tears and threats and manipulations that we women are so prone to, remember: a wife, bottom line, respects a man who loves the Lord and acts with authority. Even if the authority is a quiet insistence upon something he believes that she doesn't...if she can see that it is coming from conviction and not from a desire to wield power and demand obedience, she will respect it.
It is significant that at the fall, the curse upon woman was pain in childbirth and a desire to control her husband. The men would wrest a living from a cursed earth and would rule over their wives.
In Christ this curse can be reversed. Paul instructs men to LOVE their wives (and men naturally tend to "respect" more than to "love"), and women are to "respect" their husbands (and their natural tendency is to "love" [and smother] rather than to respect). In Christ our command is to do the opposite of what our natural selves tend to do. When we are in Christ, wives can begin to respect their husbands without insisting on conformity with their will, and husbands can learn to love their wives while not being intimidated by their wives' emotions and demands.
The Lord Jesus will direct you, Reb...
Colleen |
Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 91
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 12:04 pm: | |
Thanks, Colleen. The Lord will direct me I trust Him 100%.
I have since the beginning taken my stand to leave Adventism 100% out of conviction. I have absolutely no desire to wield power and I have made it clear to my wife that I do not intend to disturb her beliefs. I think she is beginning to see that I am doing what I am doing completely out of conviction(and I am)
At this point the "authority" I am acting with has to be confined to quiet insistence on what I believe. And it's working so far, so good. |
Flyinglady
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Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 3701
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:58 pm: | |
Reb,
I have no problem either with you worshipping at the SDB church on Saturday. Just keep listening to God. He will not mislead you. He leads each person in the way that is best for that person in their circumstances. It is my opinion, as I have read things here and on CARM, that God has each of us exactly where He wants us, even the SDAs. So, God bless you brother in Christ. One day your wife will have her veil lifted off her. Until then, just follow Jesus.
He is so awesome.
Diana |
Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 99
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 9:59 am: | |
Thanks, Diana |
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