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Agapetos
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Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://art-for-jesus.blogspot.com/2007/05/before-after.html

I wonder how long this will survive without some significant disclaimer? But it reminds me of what Chris was saying in the "covenant study" about how we've made the "Ten Words" into something much different in our minds, the Law, the "Ten Commandments" of morality. In that sense, the picture could prove immediately offensive. In a way then, it reminds me of how the Jews were offended by the way Christ insulted their rabbinic traditions. The net effect was to make me wonder about the pictures myself if I was going "too far." But when I showed them to my wife, it went straight to her heart and she understood. I love the way God does that... He speaks through others that way and reinforces His own voice in me.

Anyway, blessings! Let me know what you think. :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramone, I really like your before and after paintings. The yoke of the 10 commandments is so real. I remember how it felt. Then Jesus showed me Himself and how He paid everything at the cross and I did not have to wear that yoke any longer. Praise our awesome God for freeing each of us.
Diana
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Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 11:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ramone, I like them. They are evocative and descriptive. They tell my story!

Colleen
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Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 4:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just in time for 10 Commandment Day! I'd like to post those pictures on our church's sign instead of what's currently there "10 Commandments: Deal or No Deal?" I would say "No Deal" but I don't think that was the intention.
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Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha! Raven, I totally sympathize with you—I agree that Ramone's pictures would be a great replacement for the implication of that sign...sigh.

Colleen
Agapetos
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Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 9:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I added some introductory comments on the pictures at the 4TG website:
http://www.forthegospel.org/forum/general_discussion/re_interpreting_the_ten
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On the Christians and the Law thread, I opened the discussion talking about how Chris (on FAF) had spoken about the way Christians through the years have looked at the "Ten Commandments", which in Hebrew are actually the Ten Words.

Scripture is clear that the Ten are actually the very words of the covenant (that is, the old covenant) and are the tablets of the covenant. They are the foundation or condensed version of what is later repeated and spelled out in the "book of the law", the five books of Moses.

To the people of the Old and New Testament times, the Ten represented the Old Covenant. To both ages the Ten were clearly the covenant document and there was no confusion. This is why the matter was clear when Moses threw down the Ten as he saw the Israelites dancing to the golden calf idol -- showing that they had broken the covenant.

But to us?? To us!! To us the matter is much more confused. We do not see the Ten as the covenant document that Scripture speaks of them as. Instead we look at them as the ten moral precepts, the foundation of lawfulness and proper moral behavior. Since the days of the New Testament apostles passed away, Christians have re-interpreted the Ten to mean such things. Perhaps it is due in part to the separation of the gentile and Jewish churches? Whatever the case, we have re-interpreted the Ten and made them into something else. And now we're having a hard time letting go of it.

I find it somewhat similar to the way that Jesus' words and actions challenged the rabbinic interpretations of the Torah. They had developed their own interpretations and staked much on them, so much that they had little room for His word. Have we, I wonder, done something similar by minimizing the Biblical definitions of the Ten and maximizing our "uses" of the Ten?

Recently at night I quickly saw two pictures, and I inked them and put them on my art site. They speak for themselves, but I have found it necessary to write such a long explanation for them here simply because of our re-interpretation of the Ten... our re-interpretation may shock us when we see such pictures as I drew. Yet they are pictures that Peter and Paul painted with their words (only one of Paul's words, though... I don't know how to paint the other ways he referred to the Ten!).

I was a bit worried about sharing the pictures here. I don't know how many of us have room for them. Yet they are so clear in Scripture. When I showed them to my wife, they went straight to their heart, and that spoke to me. Others on FAF identified with them, remembering what it felt like under the Law. And we all praise God because of the final outcome.

The pictures can be found at this link: http://art-for-jesus.blogspot.com/2007/05/before-after.html

Blessings in Christ, in His freedom, love and in His rest.
Ramone

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