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Dinolf
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Post Number: 52
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello friends

Found this site with an objective description of adventism from an outside/baptist/evangelical perspective.

http://www.4truth.net/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=hiKXLbPNLrF&b=784565&ct=1235077

I think the question no 6 asking to tell about the experience of Jesus is a good one. Maybe this link has been on the forum before, but anyhow - any comments?


/Dinolf
Mwh
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 2:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have seen that section on this site once before. I find it good.

Also I just stumbled on their link to Eastern Orthodox, quite interesting.
http://www.4truth.net/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=hiKXLbPNLrF&b=784565&ct=971675

In His joy,
Martin
Dennis
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dinolf,

The link you gave affirms what some outsiders think of Seventh-day Adventism without really knowing the details theologically. Although inadvertently, the author conveys alot of misformation about Adventism. It appears that this website largely describes Adventism in accordance with the General Conference PR machine.

Dennis Fischer
Colleentinker
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree, Dennis. It represents the official presentation of the church, not the reality of its theology. Some might wonder whether it really matters whether or not people understand the nitty gritty of Adventist theologyóif the church states something, why isn't that good enough?

The problem, of course, is that the official statement does not reflect how Adventists are taught to think from childhood on. It's an illustration of the old saying, "It's not what you SAY that counts; it's what you DO."

What Adventists actually believe and the things on which they build their view of reality is, in fact, fairly consistent within the church, even though there are very conservative and also very liberal Adventists. Their reality is that they really do believe Sabbath plays some role in a person's qualifications for eternal life. They really do believe that at death, nothing but breath goes to Jesus. They really do perceive Jesus to be "less" than the Father. They may not know how to explain this perception, but it is true. Jesus is "little god", the loving , forgiving god. The Father is much sterner, more demanding, more judgmental.

I agree with your assesment, Dennis.

Colleen
Jeremy
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Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 7:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are absolutely right, Dennis.

On that site's "Cult/Sect Overview" page (written by the same author), it lists the following characteristic:


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2. All cults deny or redefine any or all essential Christian doctrines. Jehovah's Witnesses, for instance, absolutely deny the deity of Jesus Christ. The LDS redefines the Trinity to mean the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate personages or gods.

--http://www.4truth.net/site/apps/nl/content3.asp?c=hiKXLbPNLrF&b=784531&ct=971325




Well, the SDA church redefines the Trinity in the exact same way that the LDS church does! But for some reason, people are unaware of this fact and/or want to ignore/deny it.

That same link also says:


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3. Sects may adhere officially to essential Christian teachings while exhibiting other characteristics of cults or sects. The International Church of Christ, for example, adheres to traditional views about God and Christ, but members regard their movement as the only one proclaiming the true message of salvation today.




And yet the SDA church does not make their list, but the ICOC does.

Also, the "Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS)/Community of Christ" makes their list, despite their (outward at least) belief in the Trinity.

Jeremy

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