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Esther
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 5:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't seem to find the old thread anywhere, but sometime last year I remember we discussed variations on sda wording in the hymnbook compared to what the original wording was. Colleen even proceeded to do an excellent article on the topic for Proclamation.

Shortly after that, I decided that I wanted to re-learn the hymns. I grew up in a rural area as a pk and my parents always emphasized knowing the hymns by heart...and we spent a good amount of times singing them. I was blown away by what some of the original words were and how much power they contained in their messages that I didn't always grasp. Anyway, so I started going through my SDA hymnal and writing in all the corrections to the hymns. Let me say, I'm not making "speedy" progress, but it has been a fun project and oh so enlightening.

This morning, I was listening to a sermon from White Horse Inn (I thank Stan for this great link) and they mentioned the hymn "Nothing but the Blood of Jesus". The words came into my heart and I found myself off on a tangent of singing the hymn over and over. Since I haven't gotten to it yet in the hymnal, I decided to jump ahead and see what the sda version was compared to the original. To my surprise, it's not even in the hymnal.

My question is: I know this is a song I grew up singing in church. I remember my dad using is along with sermons. Do any of you know if it was in a previous version of the hymnal? My copy is copyrighted 1985, printed 1991. If someone has the version in a previous sda hymnal, would you mind posting the verses for me? If they did in fact, take it out, I can't imagine why?!

Thanks in advance! Now I'll go back to happily singing:
This is all my hope and peace,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
This is all my righteousness,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus... :-)

Blessed
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 6:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unfortunately I can't help you with this one because I don't own an SDA hymnbook and don't have any old ones either. I love those hymns about the cross and the only one that I remember singing when I was SDA was The Old Rugged Cross.

I have a question which is sort of on the same theme. I recently worked with a vocalist who is SDA and the hymn that was chosen for the funeral was The Strife is O'er. She was not familiar with it and at first I was surprised and then realized that they never celebrate Easter Sunday so probably do not sing many of the Easter hymns that we so love.

I also would love to hear some of you share what it was like for you when you worshipped on Easter Sunday for the first time after leaving Adventism.

Blessed
Grace_alone
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 9:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Esther, here's the thread I think you were looking for http://rtinker.powweb.com/discus/discus/messages/11/4549.html?1154552708

and another about hymns http://rtinker.powweb.com/discus/discus/messages/11/4421.html?1154425527

Ramone's enthusiasm is contagious!

"Nothing But the Blood" is one of my favorite hymns. My sister and I found some great harmonies for it!

:-) Leigh Anne
River
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You mean the sda's fowled the old hymns up too?
Jeremy
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 1:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

River, here's the Proclamation! article that Esther mentioned, which talks about how the SDA church has changed the words of hymns: http://rtinker.powweb.com/Proclamation2005_JanFeb.pdf (starting on page 8)

Jeremy
River
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, looks like they fowled that up too and I was just getting over the fact they fowled up foot washing.
Lets see now, they fowled up.......
Heaven
Atonement
divinty
Rest
Eats
Foot washing
Hymns
Saturday
Courting
Happiness
Is there anything they didn't fowl up?

well, maybe the cave, the Bears and the wacky backy will clear my head.
River
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Esther, I looked it up in the old (1945) hymnal, and Nothing But the Blood is not there, either. I checked by that title as well as by the first line, "What [and also "who"] can wash away my sin?"

Now I'm puzzled along with you, because that song is quite familiar to me. Maybe it was sung at camp meeting, or people sang it as special music, or something. But it's not in the SDA hymnal.

Hymnals are great windows into a church's theology. And even though the Adventists "cleaned up" many of the hymns they altered earlieróespecially hymns that overtly eliminated the Trinity such as "Holy , Holy, Holy", still in the newer edition, they have removed many references to Jesus' blood that actually were there in the old one. It's subtle stuff, but the implications are profound.

Colleen
Grace_alone
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's actually a Baptist song!

I just found it online. If you click on the name "Robert Lowry" you'll find a mini-biography about the man who wrote that song.

I had a feeling that was Baptist, we don't have it in our Lutheran hymnal either and the Baptists always seem to have the good ones...

:-) lalalalalalaaaa!
Grace_alone
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oops - forgot the link.

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/n/b/nbtblood.htm
River
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 8:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doesnít surprise me at all that its not there, that song just does not fit with their theology.
If Jesus blood washes away sin there would be no need too ìObtain perfectionî.
That old hymn has been sung at least once or twice a month since I was a kid.
River
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Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of hymns, I just got a book handed to me tonight at church with about a thousand hymns set to guitar cords and I can copy what I want of them.

Of course they want me to play guitar in church, they have been after me to do that, so I played last Sunday night up there. It must have taken the at least a year to do that. In fact I just copied "Nothing but the Blood"
"This is all my righteousness, Nothing but the Blood of Jesus"
Amen to that, I give him all the praise.
River
Esther
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Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 5:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, thanks Colleen for looking it up for me. I really am puzzled. Maybe it was just in a worship song book or something.

Thanks for posting the link to cyberhymnal Grace. That's where I go all the time to look up, and play the tunes, of the hymns I'm working on. I even searched through the SDA hymnal for all the songs written by Lowry. He did write some good ones!

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