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| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2065 Registered: 3-2004  |
I found this as I was lurking on the R/S site and decided to put it here for us to pray about. The original 1858 Great Controversy is being translated into other languages, especially in Asia. Let us pray that these people not be duped and that God watch over them. This was written by Onigiri. I have been on his website. "I plan to leave Japan where i've lived for 15 years, this October. The plan is to promote the original 1858 Great Controversy in the various languages, especially in Asia. Already it is being translated/printed in several languages such as Cebuano, Vietnamese, Korean, Khmer, some Indian ones, Japanese etc. (just asian ones noted). I plan to go see the translators of the various versions and give them moral support, while looking constantly to find new translators/distributors in other languages such as Malay, Indonesian, Laotian, Chinese, Thai etc. No doubt Satan will do his best to throw up obstacles. The biggest obstacles so far are that "anything goes" church leaders do not care at all for this book, while those who have read the currently-printed 1911 GC all their lives usually feel threatened by this thin book, and are downright hostile to its getting translated and printed. I ask for your prayers especially for God to lead me to the right people, that i can be an appropriate ambassador for Jesus Christ, for travel mercies, and for my health to be sustained. If anyone wishes to see more information, i will be happy to show you my blog where i write about what is happening in these lines, and just daily life-type things too." Let's continue to pray for all those posting on R/S. Diana | ||
| Prinsen Registered user Username: Prinsen Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2005 |
What is the difference between the 1858 and the 1911 GC printing? Has it been slightly edited or is it a totally different version? /Martin | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3015 Registered: 12-2003  |
I'm not sure of the differences, Martin, but I know that at the GC session this summer they announced their plan to translate 10 EGW books into MANY languages and distribute them to 2,000,000 homes of recent converts in many different countries by the year 2010. The GC feels that if people do not get EGW into their own languages, they will lose their Adventist identities. (Goodness, all they'd have to study would be the Bible if they didn't have EGW!) Colleen | ||
| Randyg Registered user Username: Randyg Post Number: 76 Registered: 12-2004 |
Colleen, I am convinced that the GC's continued emphasis on pushing EGW books is of course, economic and not spiritual. If the SDA membership were to read the Bible and not EGW the gravy train would dry up. Randy | ||
| Dt Registered user Username: Dt Post Number: 72 Registered: 4-2005 |
Spreading EGW books throughout the world church will weaken the SDA church rather than strengthen it, in my opinion. The places in the world where the church grows the slowest is where they have little or no access to the SOP. It will be very interesting to watch these new converts, many new to Jesus Christ and Christianity in general, stop fulfilling the Great Commission to concentrate on legalistic perfectionism. Just my opinion. DT | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3027 Registered: 12-2003 |
Exactly, Randy. And Dt, you make a very interesting point as well. I think we need to pray that God will protect the hearts and minds of those who want to know Him but who are being deceived by fasle doctrines. Colleen | ||
| Derrell Registered user Username: Derrell Post Number: 104 Registered: 10-2002 |
Interesting that they would desire to make the SOP so widely available to the members when the SOP is one of the most common reasons for churn. Kind of like saying that although the consumers are leaving your establishment in droves because blue widgets consistently break down, you produce even more blue widgets and give them free to loyal customers hoping that the defective product will be the one that keeps their business. (Headshake) | ||
| Melissa Registered user Username: Melissa Post Number: 1205 Registered: 7-2003  |
Well, I have another important subject to remember in our prayers: Colleen. I have to say that I am usually just dumbfounded when I read letters to the editor in proclamation! and the "loving" Christian spirit some of those SDAs spread, but this last issue had a very pointed letter directly addressed to Colleen. I'm sure it could not completely have rolled off even the most seasoned duck's back that easily. It gives me a reminder as well to mind my own words when I want to lash out at someone I heartily disagree with. While he spewed his words about bitterness and anger, the only angry and bitter words I ever read in proclamation! are in the Letters section from those asking to be removed from the list. Colleen, may I take this moment to say how much I appreciate all the work you do and all the sacrifices you make to be on the front line of this challenge. I so appreciate your openness and how you express your views in such a non-adversarial and loving way. I also find it very brave and honest to publish such harsh criticism (even though I think it's false criticism in many ways). I personally know exactly where I'll find you in heaven....somewhere close to the feet of Christ! I'm not sure how you find something positive from such letters. Just know there are a number of us who know the "truth" about you and the heart you so freely give. I suspect none of us knows all you really do endure for this ministry. But I thank God for you regularly and pray his hedge of protection around your family. You are an incredible example for all of us. God bless you richly! | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1064 Registered: 3-2005 |
A hearty Amen! to Melissa's last post. It is amazing to me and always a blessing to see how upbeat Richard and Colleen remain week after week as I have had opportunity to observe their demeanor weekly at FAF Bible studies. It is a testimony indeed to the grace of Christ who sustains them. The Lord is indeed working in the ministry of FAF! Stan | ||
| Dt Registered user Username: Dt Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2005 |
Oops!! I should have proof-read my post more carefully. I meant to say that the church grows the fastest in those areas where they have little or no access to SOP. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2079 Registered: 3-2004 |
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN I agree with Melissa's post above. Thank you Colleen and Richard for all you do for us formers. Each of us thanks God for the both of you. God is using you for an important work and I feel it is a privilege to be a small part of it. Diana | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3036 Registered: 12-2003 |
Thank you, Melissa, Stan, and Diana. It moves me more than you know to hear that you pray for us. One of the things I have prayed over the months is that God will send people to pray for us because we often can't even discern the spiritual battles that rage around this ministry and us--but we often sense them. I praise God for putting all of you in my life, and He has blessed me deeply by your unity in the Spirit and by your great insight and consistent love for Jesus. Thanks to everyone here--and thank you, Jesus, for eveyone You bring to the forum. Colleen | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1071 Registered: 3-2005 |
I just received my Proclamation today. I was brought to the point of tears of joy when I read the article by Dr. Stanley Rouhe, retired neurosurgeon, who was one of my teachers during medical school at Loma Linda. If you haven't read it, or just skimmed it, read it again, and just know that this is a most miraculous story of God's sovereign saving grace as well as physical healing in someone that I would have never believed would be publishing a story in Proclamation! Thanks again Richard and Colleen for a great magazine. Stan |
