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Randyg
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Username: Randyg
Post Number: 69
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 5:25 pm: |     |
Stan and Loneviking,
A trumpet summit in Redlands sounds great, I'll bring my Schilkes.
You guys blow me away,
Randy
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Melissa
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Username: Melissa
Post Number: 1202
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 7:47 am: | |
duplicate post....oops 
(Message edited by melissa on December 02, 2005) |
Melissa
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Username: Melissa
Post Number: 1203
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 7:49 am: | |
Okay, trumpet players, I've just got to ask a question. My son has played for 2 years in band. This year, he is only playing trumpet for Jazz band, but has been put on tuba in his regular band class. He has a 30 year old trumpet that my brother had when he was young and is wanting a "newer" one. He wants to continue with trumpet, but I'm skeptical he will continue with both instruments...and therefore skeptical about purchasing a newer one. Do you think there comes a time he'll have to choose between instruments? If not, is there a brand, kind, or some other feature I should consider when looking for a new trumpet or something to avoid? I know this i way off the topic, but you keep talking about trumpets, so I had to ask ... .
BTW, I ask because once my brother got put on tuba, he never touched the trumpet again. But they didn't have 7th grade jazz band then. I think my son will love jazz band in the long run and would love to see him continue if he can keep up both. |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 397
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 5:31 pm: | |
I'd hold off on getting him a 'newer' one. See what instrument he winds up wanting to play. That's a HUGE stretch to go from trumpet to tuba. My chops hurt just thinking about playing a mouthpiece that big.
Also, a thirty year old trumpet isn't 'old' if it was taken care of. What make and model of trumpet? What size mouthpiece is he using?
My horn dates to 1963---that's forty three years old and it's a real gem. I've played it against horns costing up to $3000 and it's every bit their equal. |
Randyg
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Username: Randyg
Post Number: 70
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 11:22 pm: | |
Hello Melissa,
You must feel blessed having a child who wants to pursue the most noble of instruments. I agree with much of what my friend the solitary norseman has said. Your son will be able to play both horns to an intermediate level but will have to choose one or the other to excell beyond that. It would be like playing the violin and the double bass. You have a grasp of the fingering, but the nuances and technique required to play well would suffer trying to do both. I can only assume his Band Director plays the saxophone(nuff said).They can play the full range(soprano-baritone) because the mouthpieces are similar.
A newer horn probably will not make him sound or play better, but it can be a great motivating factor. If you decide to look at horns, a good used Yamaha will retain its resale value so even if he changes his mind down to road you would not lose. In 1975 while in 10th grade I spent my summer earnings on a new trumpet. Best thing I ever bought. If you buy a Tuba you would probably also need a minivan, just to pack it around.
Objectively, Randy
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Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 3009
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 12:41 am: | |
Love it, Randy--I agree, his band director must play saxophone!
(In fairness, I have to admit that our younger son actually studied classical saxophone [!] for several years with an awesome graduate of the saxophone department at the U of Redlands. Now I've heard a lot of saxophones in my day, but I've never heard saxophones that sounded beautiful until I heard this teacher and her students. Astonishing clear, bell-like tone with expressive vibrato--but of course, they don't use jazz mouthpieces...)
Colleen |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 399
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 8:35 am: | |
The solitary norseman? I've got to remember that one!
I'm betting the teacher was/is a flautist. Only a weird sadist would have somebody flopping back and forth between tuba and trumpet. The flutes usually despise the trumpets because the trumpets can play in tune and they can't! (yes, tongue is firmly planted in cheek)!
Don't even get me started on the sax players! Here's my tag line over at the trumpet forums:
There are two sides to a Trumpeter's personality:
There is the one that lives only to lay waste to the woodwinds and strings, leaving them lying blue and lifeless along the swath of destruction that is a trumpeter's fury. Then there's the Dark Side.
HeHeHe..... |
Randyg
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Username: Randyg
Post Number: 72
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 9:50 am: | |
Please do not get me wrong, if I can't plug in a CD by Miles, Maynard, Marsalis, or Maurice, I don't mind listening to Coleman Hawkins or those other cats.
So thats your tag line on the Herald. I shared that gem with my wife months ago. She passed it on to the trumpeters at City Band who needless to say concurred. |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 400
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 10:13 am: | |
What instrument does your wife play?
That tag line is only half in jest! At band practice this last Thursday there was a new girl in the 3rd clarinets ahead of me. Turns out her brother is the teenager playing with me---he's 17, she's 15.
We're practicing Holsts 'suite in Eb for military band'. The first section ends on this FFF 'high C'. I hit that note dead on, full volume and I thought she was going to swallow her reed. I was laughing so hard, I was glad I didn't have to play for a while in the second part of the piece. |
Randyg
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Username: Randyg
Post Number: 74
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 10:54 am: | |
Clarinet Buffet R13 |
Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 1052
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 3:58 pm: | |
Melissa, I would concur with the other trumpeters that the band director should not be switching your son to tuba from trumpet. The long term practicality of trumpet vs tuba is indisputable, unless his heart is just set on tuba instead of trumpet. There are low-priced starter trumpets like the kind I started on in grade school, and when they see they are serious about playing, then a more expensive brand, but even good trumpets don't have to be too expensive.
At this moment, I am taking a break from practicing "Oh Holy Night" that I will be playing for a family reunion Christmas party. Prayer is requested when I go up to PUC in 2 weeks, as most of my family, except my dad and sister are very strong SDAs with a very hardline stance on Ellen White.
I love all this music talk. Loneviking, you posted some great links on the "music" thread awhile back.
Stan |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 401
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 4:43 pm: | |
Glad you liked them Stan. I hope you had a good trip back home. This last Thursday was awfully wet around here! Next year we'll have to do some advance planning for when you come up.... |
Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 1053
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 10:35 pm: | |
Loneviking, or Bill? Yes, we barely escaped Kingsbury grade on Thursday in a snowstorm and left one day early and hit a blinding blizzard at Mammoth lakes which we barely made it through. Next year for sure, and hope you will make it in February.
Stan |
Cy
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Username: Cy
Post Number: 33
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 5:48 am: | |
For some reason I decided in fifth grade that I wanted to play clarinet, which seems to be an unusual choie for the male gender. I did enjoyed it, and I got to sit next to many pretty girls in band over the years :-) Loneviking, I love hitting those high notes clear, loud, and on key :-)
I've played bass and contrabass clarinet (wow - what power in the low register!).
My instrument for the past couple of decades has been voice, though. I can take it anywhere with me and I've loved performing so many wonderful Christmas and Easter pieces. I had considered myself a baritone, but last fall when I tried out for the local chamber artists the director pointed out I am more of a tenor. I didn't make it into the chamber choir because I was too rusty, but I joined the church choir and now I'm trying to relearn Handel's Messiah as a tenor. I'm finally getting used to high Es, Fs, and Gs...
Cy
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