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Jwd
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Post Number: 113
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 5:38 pm: |     |
Do I dare tip-toe into this pool, whose waters are a tad frothy due to a little polemic activity taking place? :c) (that's a smile!)
It is only human nature, in our fallen condition, to desire others to agree with what MY (our) conclusions or convictions or beliefs are. I believe it is basically healthy to reveal what your convictions are. Take note of the word "basically!" I admit to times when I nearly bite my tongue to remain silent, rather than risk what evidence suggests would lead to only further alienation. But basically I think dialog is a good thing, SO LONG as we do not allow alienation, anger, or resentment of others to take root. This divides the "body of Christ."
One thing I am - - please note the next words carefully - - gradually learning, (yes, after ALL THESE YEARS!!! :c) ) is that I am NOT the head. I may not even be the little pinkie in this body of Christ. I am totally convinced, however, that I AM definitively a lump of clay, and I struggle daily to surrender my stubborn will and desire to be molded into an image after MY imagined design; rather than to allow the Chief Potter to make of me AS HE CHOOSES! It could be a beautiful vase; it could be a tea cup,to offer a cool drink of water to someone; it could be a smaller lump, to be wedged behind the wheel of someone discouraged and close to rolling backward.
This has been expressed in other words. But it serves to be repeated: God looks upon the heart of EVERYONE! That means EVERY ONE! I can never read the thoughts and motives of anyone dancing, or sitting in the pew watching, or throwing stones at the stained glass windows from outside.
Only God can AND DOES do that with perfect justice and love.
I relate to what Tisha has said. And I relate to what I am guessing is behind your frustration, Richard. HOWEVER....although I may wish that God's grace has succeeded in renewing my mind to the degree that all my human emotions of pain, resentment, sadness and a hearty sprinkling of self-pity no longer existed; the truth is that they do. While the frozen anger He has taken away, memories of a sad past remain WITH the emotions they kindle at times. I must pull up one of my analogies to make my point:
Some of us have, within our own prison cell experience of a life-time of legalistic mind programming, psychological, spiritual and physical abuse, guilt and fear from our "prison guards" - lies and having our minds manipulated to believe false teaching, and distorted truth; to where many innocent acts of life and living, were branded SINFUL, EVIL, with the threat of being eternally lost for even eating one tiny burnt crisp of bacon in a fry pan, when no one was looking - - - all those experiences, along with some real emotional persecution from a church we grew up believing was God's ONLY true Church - - it is impossible (I speak of my current sinful state in God's hands of Grace) to
NEVER speak with DEEP and EMOTIONAL ~ PASSION ~ about a church and some of it's professed saints.
That passion arrises at times. As my wife often reminds me: no one will or CAN understand who has NOT been through a similar "prison-cell" experience. For me, the term "prison-cell" is absolutely an appropriate description!
So forgive us when you hear or taste some of this "passion!" We're trying to cooperate with the Lord in putting all that in some semblance of retionale. But it's a REAL challenge, to be asked to be dispassionate over something that nearly destroyed your life! It's a system of religion that still, in some cases, appears to continue to be anything but Christ like.
My personal conviction is that a primary contributing factor for people who claim to see the authentic Gospel, and still remain in the SDA Church to "help bring that Gospel to others",
has as an under-lying motive, a continual belief that the Sabbath commandment is still binding!
I also agree with Tisha over calling oneself an "evangelical Adventist" is no true SDA at all ! Don't drape a flag of Evangelicalism about your shoulders while underneath, your clothes are still smeared with "Egg White." You
can't sing songs of the True Gospel while at the same time, partake of prison routine and try to please the guards by talking "sheep talk" while you try and hide the wolf tail that keeps creeping out!
A true Seventh-day Adventist is one whose faith in the traditional beliefs and foundations of the 1844 movement is solid and unmovable; apart from a dramatic act of God's intervening Grace!
You can't march with one foot in the camp of The True Remnant - and all that THAT stands for; and one foot in the camp of Evangelical free Christians whose salvation is based upon Scripture ALONE, salvation by Grace ALONE through Faith ALONE in Christ ALONE! This is a disingenuous attempt to be all things to all people!
I defend my right to be passionate about a false system. I only pray that I can do it in a fashion to not discredit Christ. But having spoken my objections or judgments based upon personal experience of a life time; I need not
dwell upon the subject as my primary theme.
That theme must always be "Holy, Holy, Holy, with praise of gratitude for all the Father has done in electing me into His family through the plan rooted before time and inagurated in Christ, only Christ!"
"Come NOW and let us REASON together!"
Soli Deo Gloria
Jess |
Tisha
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 6:08 pm: | |
Well said Jess! I wish I could be so elegant. I love the picture you paint of maybe being a small lump of clay "to be wedged behind the wheel of someone discouraged and close to rolling backward"! Thanks for the great visuals in your writing!
Sometimes I think my written words don't convey my true intentions. I don't want to alienate anyone on this forum. I want my focus to be on Christ. But I also want a place where I can be honest about where I am in this wonderful journey I'm on. I love the dialogue - even when it gets uncomfortable! And I do know that only God sees our hearts and knows our true intentions. I'm so glad it's not up to me to be the judge - I'd make a horrible mess of it!
So, if I have offended, it was not intentional. Please forgive my crude attempts to convey, from my heart, what is my experience alone.
In Christian Love - tisha |
Riverfonz
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 6:50 pm: | |
Jess,
There is no way to follow that. Wow! You have a true gift of expressing in writing what I am sure so many of us are thinking.
Tisha,
I appreciate your thoughts, and yes, without disagreements, forums would be boring to read. That is what makes dialogue interesting.
Stan |
Colleentinker
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 6:52 pm: | |
Tisha, I so realte to your post! I completely agree, and you expressed yourself so eloquently.
And Jess, you said it so well--"But it's a REAL challenge, to be asked to be dispassionate over something that nearly destroyed your life!...You can't march with one foot in the camp of The True Remnant - and all that THAT stands for; and one foot in the camp of Evangelical free Christians whose salvation is based upon Scripture ALONE, salvation by Grace ALONE through Faith ALONE in Christ ALONE! This is a disingenuous attempt to be all things to all people! "
Wow--you completely spoke for me, too.
I so understand the pain from which both your posts were born, Tisha and Jess. I also understand where you're coming from, Richard, having been in a similar place for a long time.
I've found, though, that one CAN'T keep a foot in both Adventism and evangelical Christianity and maintain internal congruence. I thought I could, but truly, I deceived myself.
Again I ask if a person who holds onto Adventism while flirting with evangelical Christianity would advise a Mormon to stay on the fringes of his church while dabbling in Christianity in order to "make a difference". I think we feel differently about this rationale when we look at it from the persepctive of religions we admit are cults. And yet the analogy is accurate. Adventism teaches "another gospel". As Clay Peck and Dale Ratzlaff say, to hold onto the true gospel ol the new covenant and attempt to honor the old covenant as well (and the false teachings of Adventism born of a skewed view of the old covenant) is spiritual adultery.
God is faithful, however, and in His own time He gradually brings us more and more moments where He reveals our own internal fear. He is faithful--we can trust Him and follow Him at those moments. He leads us away from fear.
Praise God for absolute truth in Jesus!
Colleen |
Javagirl
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 8:32 pm: | |
Well this is certainly some food for thought. Ive got the feet in both camps, A potentially precarious position. The thing is, I am absolutely confident that this is where I need to be right now. I dont know why, but I do know I have turned it over to God, and am open to the Holy Spirit's leading. I have complete peace about this. I'd really like to leave the Adventist Church at this point. It's a claustrophic atmosphere for me. The answer is no for now. Tomorrow, if it changes, I will leave. Last week I went to church on Sat and left feeling hungry for true Worship. I did, however, have a Spirit-Led conversation with someone for about an hour. I woke up Sunday complelled to go to Church, again! So I did! I actually longed for the corporate, Spirit filled worship experience, something I have always dreaded in the past. It's real to me now. I will leave the adventist church when God tells me too. Please dont be quick to judge my motives or my heart at this point. I am His, I will follow, willingly, when God's perfect timing is right.
One thing that bothers me. I hear statement made to the effect that when one will "honestly" "truly" "willinglingly",
"completely", "surrender", "is willing to give up false beliefs", "follow the truth, even if it is differnt than their tradiion" "face their fear" "truly wants to do God's Will" Etc...then one will do a certain thing (leave the SDA church for starters)
Am I the only one who has prayerfully sought God's will in the past, with complete sincerity, and NOT had the veil removed at that time!!! Did no one here EVER honestly seek the Lord while an adventist, and serve Him sincerely?? I know, that there have been times in my life when I have done that. I don't know why God did not reveal to me the truth that I asked for, even longed for at that time. This dates back to college days (80's). Some on this forum were involved in intensive prayer and bible study with me in college for several years. We were earnestly seeking God. Believe me, If I would give up sleep to study the bible, live in poverty as a student missionary, if I would go door to door in the heat to sell books for Jesus, I would have jumped at the gospel of grace had I understood it. Who wouldn't. How wonderful it is. I dont understand why I had to wait this long for freedom, but I trust God that His timing was for a purpose bigger than I can grasp.
Anyway, thanks all for your comments, prayers, and encouragement. Diana, I am understanding your "awesome God" more and more. Amazing changes are taking place in me, when GOd is doing the changing. People are noticing even! Oh, I am so blessed. Praise the King. |
Jwd
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 9:25 pm: | |
Javagirl,
Remember I called our attention to the truth that God reads our hearts? Well, that applies to you as well, right now in YOUR situation. This is YOUR life, not mine, nor anyone elses.
We all speak to others from a history of our own life that has given us our present perspective.
But let's say someone's perspective IS the correct one to share as advice with another. Even though it may prove to be true SOMETIME down the path, it may not fit just NOW from where YOU are just NOW! Does that make sense?
Leaving Adventism is not the goal to hold up for everyone. The goal is, when given opportunity, and someone is ready to listen, to endeavor to shine the Light of Christ upon the authentic Gospel, where ONLY is true freedom discovered and enjoyed and eternal life embraced as a surety
beyond ANY doubt. the goal is always Christ and coming to know God; (if I may) not 28 concepts ABOUT Him!
Personally, I can't see how a person who has truly seen the fullness of the Gospel of God's grace could remain within the Adventist "organized system" a life time; but these are my
feelings. I have those feelings because of where I am right now. You are at the place where YOU are right now. God knows the totality of what that means. Again, Jesus did not say, "Abide in the Church," "Keep your eyes upon the Church," or "Seek the right church."
He said, "Abide in ME. Remain in ME!" That is
where our primary focus should ALWAYS be.
It matters not a wit, what I think, except it is backed up with a solid Word of God. If any pressure comes to you, let it be the gentle pressure of the Spirit of Truth pulling or pushing you out of the church.....IF that is God's will for you now. Only God knows what is best and He "will bring the best of all the Good to us and into our lives just at the time needed."
I embrace you in love, knowing, at least, in part, some of the struggles you are most likely experiencing within your own spirit. You, and all others on this "wild and crazy ride" are in our united prayers, I am sure.
God bless you abundantly and grant you peace IN HIM.
Jess |
Colleentinker
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| | Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 9:44 pm: | |
Javagirl, you are NOT alone. I had the same experience of praying for years for God to reveal His will and His truth. He answered gradually, and when the veil finally fell away, it had been several years since I had been specifically praying.
I still maintain that when people honestly, truly, and willingly surrender their beliefs to God, He will show them truth. I know, however, that the process can take months or years.
There are several things I'm beginning to conclude. First, I have no ability to see the big picture. I've often asked why God waited until I was well into my 40s to finally allow me to see the truth about my SDA heritage and to bring me fully into His freedom. I had prayed to know and serve Him and to grow in Him since I was a pre-teen. I had ALWAYS wanted to belong to Him. Frankly, I don't really know why He waited so long.
I can, though, see some things now I couldn't see earlier. I believe that many of my life experiences were things God knew I had to go through in order to see my own hopeless condition. Had I not gone through a divorce and experienced the hopelessness of my own guilt (because even though the marriage was abusive in many ways and very unpredictable, I could in no way see myself as an innocent victim), I would likely never have known the reality of being literally rescued from death by the grace of God as I struggled through the reality of being divorced. I would never have understood how intrinsically flawed I was, how I was, as Eph 2:4 says, "by nature [an object] of wrath".
There were other things God allowed me to learn: the reality of how deceitful people's hearts are when they hide from their own wounds; the reality of serious abuse within Adventist families; the surrender of many dreams/illusions through the process of being a step-mom who had to become truly "mom"; the light of Biblical truth beginning to dawn gradually as a backdrop to becoming aware, through church offices and through investigative reporting, of greed and politics and power plays extending from local members all the way to the GC...
I realize now that God always intended for me to leave Adventism, but in His sovereignty He orchestrated the timing so I would have experienced many things I might not have known had I found His freedom sooner. Now He is redeeming those experiences. He has given me work to do that I never imagined or looked for, and because of the things He has walked through with me in my long journey out of Adventism, I understand the issues and the people with whom I interact in ways I never would have othewise.
I also recognize that people go through many "stages". Some compromise themselves in ways that are outside the demands of Adventist doctrine. While they may understand that Adventism has problems, still they find the church useful because it alows them a place to hide or to indulge other compromises that are less visible.
Others are truly open to Jesus, and as they study and allow the Spirit to direct them, God uses them inside Adventism until He is ready to release them.
I allow that God may keep some people in Adventism--but I have to say that I believe he really does want us to be completely honest with Him and open to truth. I believe that God really is awakening and calling people to know the truth and walk in it.
Those who are truly open, God leads to Himself. This leading, however, includes more than just learning theological truth. God reveals to us the truth about ourselves and our lives. If we don't want to "go there", we also rationalize the truth about our beliefs. I don't think God can completely remove our theological veils without also removing our self-deception. If we aren't open to His revealing the truth about ourselves, we won't be open to the truth about Him. It's a package that cannot be teased apart.
So yes, Javagirl, I understand your position--and I was there. I see in you, though, a willingness to be honest, to know, and to walk where and when Jesus tells you to walk. You can trust Him--and you will know when you need to make the next move.
God is faithful.
Colleen |
Alnadean
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| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 9:13 pm: | |
I must say that after reading most of the posts, I now feel that I am somehow not good enough. That somehow I am still not accepted because I have not truly severed the ties.
I'm sure this was not the intent of anyone here, but nevertheless that's how I feel.
I find myself beginning to think- when does this all end- when will it be enough; since there is no set rule/direction as to where to go- surely I should be able to stay in the adventist church- not because it fills me spiritually because sadly it doesen't , but because it fills another purpose in my life- that of fellowship.
This is not even because I talk with people after church (because I'm new to CT) I don't, but I need that weekly meeting in addition to my studies at home by myself.
I have fully embraced the gospel. I do not 'keep the sabbath holy'though I don't flaunt my beliefs in front of everyone because I AM in their church so to speak.
Am I satisfied with my experience? - no
Do I want to leave?- yes
It didn't take me years to come to the conclusion that I didn't want to be there anymore. My revelation came on a thursday and the saturday I didn't want to be there.
I don't take a quarterly.
I don't study it.
I listen to the pastor only half heartedly as I consider it valuable time and just sit and read my Bible- having said all of that I still go because I need A church.
I would hate to think that God is displeased with me, and the salvation that we so freely talk about will somehow elude me because I still go to the adventist church.
If being in the Adventist church is wrong Biblically speaking then it is wrong on all accounts and then I should get out immediately because I am violating God's principles and then no excuse will do.
If it fits the description of 'Babylon' or if it somehow gives power to the beast then I should get out.
If they do not teach Jesus Christ and him crucified and if they worship another God then I should get out.
On the other hand if it just another church in error- and there are many; then the question would be a matter of when to get out in order to advance onesself more spiritually.
I should get out because I want to share my time with people who are closest in my beliefs.
I have heard time and again that there are true believers in the sda church; does this mean that God will save them because they haven't gotten the light yet, and I who know that they are in a lot of error and still stay will not be saved.
Is the Adventist church the church of the devil? or is it a church of Christ misguided?
That is the question because if it is the former I MUST labor to get all my family and friends and others out as soon as I can.
If it is the latter then I must by my life show that Christ has been with me, I must gently show all others that Jesus is the way while they are there so they do not MISS THE POINT because so far that's my concern.
I may have gotten it wrong and may be corrected but the Adventist gospel could be a tool used by the devil to lead God's people astray as they major in non issues and MISS THE REAL TRUTH.(BECAUSE THEY DON'T READ THE BIBLE AND STAY ON GUARD)
The Bible does say that the wheat and the tares must grow together- Does this apply to the adventist church also?
Need the truth here. What is it? If it matters I want to know- I'll get out tomorrow and stay home until I find another church.
If it doesn't matter then it truly should not matter as long as you have the gospel of God's saving Grace!
Seeking clarification
Al-Nadean
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Lindylou
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| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 9:58 pm: | |
It seems to me that the place that we each find ourselves standing at this moment - with our hearts turned toward God - is absolutely the right place for each of us to be at this exact point in time!
I think that is what Jess was trying to say. It's one thing to share our story and convictions, but we each know that it is only OUR story. The wonderful truth of God's grace is that each person who says yes to this gift is exactly where God wants them!
The truth is - that no matter where we are standing - if we are standing alone - we aren't good enough. But IN Christ, we are "holy and without fault in His eyes." (Eph. 1:4)
It all boils down to You IN CHRIST. It would seem to me that if one can answer the question - "In this moment, do I stand covered in the redemptive blood of Jesus?" - that is where truth for you lies.
Can we not look at all our life's experiences as important? Why waste time on regret? Live in the moment, knowing that the past brought you to this place and that the future will be of value because of today!
 linda
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Windmotion
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| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 10:56 pm: | |
Alnadean, I think everyone here would agree you need to follow God's timing and God's direction when it comes to leaving the Adventist church. Do not worry if you are on a different stage of the path or if God has taken you down a different yet similar path.
That said, maybe God is leading you to check out a few of the churches in your area that meet on Sunday. Maybe you will find there the pieces that are missing from your SDA church. I don't know where you live, but some denominations popular with many on this board are evanagelical free and calvary chapel.
What was more important to me when I found my church last year (free methodist) was not the name on the sign but the people and the Spirit inside.
I will pray for you as you discern His will.
Hopefully,
Hannah |
Colleentinker
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| | Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:58 pm: | |
Alnadean, I agree completely with Linda and Hannah above. The important thing is to say "Yes" when Jesus beckons you.
Fellowship is vital--I suspect that as time passes, you will discover an amazing level of true unity and sharing in a Christian community you have not yet discovered. I like Hannah's suggestion of of beginning to explore churches in your area. Ask God to show you where He wants you to be. He is faithful; He will guide you to where you need to be.
As for your family, the Holy Spirit is the only One who can open their eyes and call them. Your own experience, however, will definitely cause them to ask questions as time goes on.
Remember, there is now NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because the law of the Spirit of life has set us free from the law of sin and death. (Romans 1:1-2).
I believe that some of the posts you read above reflect the increasingly clear understanding we have as we move farther and farther away from Adventism. As we ask Jesus to fill our hearts in the places where other things had claimed us (including Adventism), many things continue to clarify as the months and years pass.
Jesus will make things you need to know clear at just the right time. Just know this: if you are in Christ, you are where you need to be. Jesus will guide the externals.
Just rest in Him, Alnadean, and know that He will guide you and your family.
He makes His will clear, and He reveals His own timing. When He calls us, He also equips us.
You are in His hands, and He is still revealing His amazing plan for you!
Colleen |
Javagirl
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 4:48 pm: | |
Alnadean,
I felt somewhat unaccepted on this site, at first. I feel differently now. Reading old threads really helped me understand more. I know I am in a minority, attending both SDA and other churches, with my name still on the books. One thing that has helped me is that as I feel more connected to the guidance of the Holy Spirit, I trust that voice more, and find I am less defensive, and more open to different opionions than I was in the past.
I actually enjoy the differening opinions and "Places" that people come from here. I'm glad not everyone agrees..absolutes and "musts" spook me, I lived that life before, I will forever be wary of any human or group of people who claim to have the whole truth! At first I was afraid, didnt know if this site was "of the devil, or of the spirit" But I appreciated a place to ask questions. I have experienced the reality of the love of people on this site. I hope you stick around.
Jess, Colleen, Hannah, Thanks for your comments and prayers. Linda, awesome praise to God in your writing, thank you for sharing.
Anyone who knows history of Ellen White's writings being "edited" or changed, please look for my post on the thread Ellen White's writings (SOP), I posted it way down the list to try to get it into the proper thread! |
Bb
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 6:07 pm: | |
Javagirl, I identify so much with what you are saying. I attended both Sat and Sun for a long time! It was a process for me. My name is still on the books. I have simply finally just stopped going to the SDA. I have gotten only about 3 or 4 calls to see how I was doing and that I was missed. Very few considering it has been about 3 years! I think the people who call are afraid to ask what is the reason I am not going. I tried so hard to be involved and be a part of the church. It was just so dead and I had icky feelings there. I really do feel freedom to love God and not worry about what others think. I used to be so scared to see anyone from church if I had earrings on! That is so stupid. I don't miss that feeling.
I do struggle a bit with wondering what is the best way to believe about the "trib" thing. There are so many varying opinions, that I am trying to figure that one out. I need the Holy Spirit to guide me in that!
I do know that God was guiding me out, because things just kept falling into place. I initially wanted to study to prove the SDA truth, and literally studied my way out. I was so scared to open up the sites against EGW, feeling that it was the "devil" leading me. But that is the cult like way that I was brought up, not to question anything.It seems like all adventists have to pick and choose what they will follow and what they don't because EGW's guidelines are so oppressive and ridiculous! I literally despised her when I was growing up, that's all I heard, and she made me sick. But that old fear was there too, so that kept me in bondage to live up to some of what she wrote just to make it to heaven!
I'm rambling, but I just want you to know that I am, like you still struggling with all of this.
Bb |
Bb
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 6:11 pm: | |
Oh, and I am attending a wonderful Baptist church. I love it! |
Belvalew
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 11:14 am: | |
Bb, you are not the only one who struggled with EGW while growing up. As pathfinders, we had to read her book "Messages To Young People" and our entire 8th grade class just wasn't reading that book, so our teacher made is sit in a separate room and read it aloud together. I don't remember a thing that we read, really, other than most of the stuff sounded stuffy, judgmental, and paranoid. We did, however, get to pass on to the next pathfinder designation and get our pins.
When I was in Academy I remember seeing EGW quotes posted everywhere in every available bulletin board. If we, the student body, got out of line, we were inundated in EGW quotes. I don't ever remember Bible quotes being posted to help us find our way.
Oh well, I'm so grateful that is all behind me now. Even the resentment has faded away for me. I am preparing right now to drive 2500 miles RT to attend my academy reunion one more time. Even though the school is supported by an extremely flawed denomination, I loved so many of these people that I'm willing to face the Lions Den again to see them. We need to be willing to separate, in our minds, the people who are caught up by Adventism and Adventism itself.
Belva |
Colleentinker
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 7:45 pm: | |
Belva, what a nightmare experience--all of you reading EGW aloud together. Sigh.
Let us know how the reunion goes--I pray God's blessing on you!
Colleen |
Flyinglady
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| | Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 9:16 am: | |
God takes each of us, on the path He has for us, in His time and not ours. We do not know what His time is or what He wants of us, except to love Him with all our hearts, soul, strength, and mind. I have had to learn, all is done in God's time and not mine. Where each of us are at this time is where God wants us, even if it is in the SDA church or any other church. God has His plan for us and I have to be patient and not push to make it my way, because my way never works.
Our God is awesome.
Diana |
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