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Jeremiah
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Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 8:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone here ever found the original source of this quote?

"Then the spiritual seed of Abraham [Christians] fled to Pella, on the other side of Jordan, where they found a safe place of refuge, and could serve their Master and keep His Sabbath." Eusebius's Ecclesiastical History.

I have read Eusebius' church history through and this quote isn't there!

There is a similar one though;

3 "But the people of the church in Jerusalem had been commanded by a revelation, vouchsafed to approved men there before the war, to leave the city and to dwell in a certain town of Perea called Pella.69 And when those that believed in Christ had come thither from Jerusalem, then, as if the royal city of the Jews and the whole land of Judea were entirely destitute of holy men, the judgment of God at length overtook those who had committed such outrages against Christ and his apostles, and totally destroyed that generation of impious men."

The quote in question would be one of the only evidences of Sabbath keeping by early Christians, if it were a real quote. It's used on several SDA sites as 1st century Sabbath keeping evidence!

Jeremiah
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Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeremiah, I have no idea where that quote came from, but it looks like it did not come from Eusebius! Another interesting quote from his Ecclesiastical History is the following:


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[...] The Sabbath and the rest of the discipline of the Jews they observed just like them, but at the same time, like us, they celebrated the Lord's days as a memorial of the resurrection of the Saviour.

6 Wherefore, in consequence of such a course they received the name of Ebionites, which signified the poverty of their understanding. For this is the name by which a poor man is called among the Hebrews.

(Book III, Chapter XXVII. The Heresy of the Ebionites.)




I don't think Eusebius would have written the quote in question, when he clearly wrote about Sabbath-keeping as something aberrant. And the alleged reference for that other quote (book 3, chapter 5) simply does not contain it, as you said.

Jeremy

(Message edited by jeremy on August 03, 2005)
Chris
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 6:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeremiah, I just finished doing some searches through a rather extensive electronic library I have been building over the years. There are lots of references to Pella in the literature, even some occurances of "Pella" near the word "Sabbath". In particular, Joesephus seems to reference Pella quite a bit. But none of the quotes I can find bare any resemblance to the specious quote you mentioned. I too have read Eusebius' Church History through and the quote in question simply isn't there. This sounds like something someone made up thinking no one would know the difference.

Chris
Jeremiah
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If this is indeed something somebody made up, it doesn't say alot for "honest research" on the part of certain SDA websites. My best guess was that this comes from some book written back in the 17th century trying to prove Sabbath keeping and that the original author may have been "paraphrasing" Eusebius. Again, this is only a guess and I don't really have the resources to find the true history of the mystery quote.

Thanks for your comments!

Jeremiah

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