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Goose
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 7:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just returned from quite an experience, attending a FAF Annual Conference for the first time. I am glad I attended.

Anyway, the weekend caused me to think of the 1994 film, The Road To Wellville, with Anthony Hopkins portraying John Harvey Kellogg. I have pasted a clip from the film below. Anyone who hasn't seen it ought to watch it. It is a film worth seeing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8jnIJAJujo

Interviewer:

And what do you think about your brother?

Dr. John Harvey Kellogg:

My brother, W.K. Kellogg, worked for me as a low-paid assistant for many years. Now he's off on his own and amassin' fortunes with my corn flake invention. Unfortunately, he has chosen the family name to promote it. But the whole world knows only one Kellogg: me, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg! Surgeon, inventor, author, and crusader for biological livin'! I do not seek monetary rewards, for I am called to a greater glory. Here at the Battle Creek Sanitarium, the spirits soar, the mind is educated, and the bowels - -the bowels are born again!

(Message edited by goose on February 19, 2012)
Flyinglady
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am not going to say what I really want to say, so all I will say is he was a CRAZY person!
Diana

(Message edited by Flyinglady on February 19, 2012)
Philharris
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Grandmother Ruth (mother's mother) was born in the Battle Creek Sanitarium. Her mother, my great-grandmother was a nurse there. John Harvey Kellogg was an innovator and willing to try anything that might work but was an ethical person who wouldn't back down when Old Ellen wanted him to do something illegal with sanitarium profits.

Also, my dad's parents were nurses, trained in the St Helena Sanitarium where they met and married. Thanks to this 'sanitarium' background my mother was big on ‘hydro therapy’. That is, we always had an enema bag hanging in our bathroom with some rather odd attachments mother would never explain the use of.



PS
I am a Kellogg employee. William K. Kellogg was also kicked out of the SDA church. Our company has a somewhat different version of the cornflake story.

Also, if you watch the film you should know there is some nudity.

Phil

(Message edited by philharris on February 19, 2012)
Truman
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 9:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil, is that a recommendation to see the movie? (kidding)

I remember seeing it back in the 90's, and thinking it was pretty silly.

J.H. Kellogg was an odd dude, but also brilliant. This may be pure legend, but I've heard he never consummated his marriage, and chose to adopt lots of children. By late in his career, he believed Joseph and Mary had produced Jesus by normal marital relations (among other unorthodox views). His brother went even farther off the reservation, getting into some real goofy spiritual stuff.

Of course, old school SDAs love to point to this as the inevitable outcome for anyone who wouldn't accept EGW as a prophet (and as an authority). Of course they ignore (or slander) the many who thrived after leaving the SDA organization.

They also point to the eventual bankruptcy of "The San" (due to the Great Depression) as proof that Ellen White was right that Kellogg shouldn't have rebuilt it after the fire. (Never mind the failure of many institutions which DID follow her advice...)
Truman
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 9:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goose - I'm almost afraid to ask....What was it about the FAF weekend that reminded you of The Road to Wellville? (Hopefully nothing to do with "hydrotherapy"...)
Nowisee
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 10:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glad you had a safe trip!

Haven't seen Road to Wellville in quite a while...(I personally always wondered about that fire @ Battle Creek San...specially since EGW had a vision about it before it happened). I believe that's true, but someone correct me if you know more about it.

Also, does anyone know the background of the author of the book
(Road to Wellville)--what was his connection to Adventism?
Philharris
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 7:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was a wooden struture and a fire hazard. The mystery to me is why did the Dime Tabernacle also burn to the ground which was replaced by a building that looks like a bank vault.

Phil
Flyinglady
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if anyone else is thinking what I am thinking right now?? Did some one deliberately set the fire??
Diana
Goose
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Truman asked:

"Goose - I'm almost afraid to ask....What was it about the FAF weekend that reminded you of The Road to Wellville? (Hopefully nothing to do with "hydrotherapy"...)"

No, nothing to do with hydro-therapy. Of course I had seen the movie soon after its release on video and it was highly entertaining,... so I vividly remembered it. I also happen to enjoy Anthony Hopkins acting. (Wasn't he brilliant in this role? One would have had to know it was Anthony Hopkins, for he so absorbed himself in the role, it was as if he actually became JH Kellogg.

But the reason I was reminded of the film while at the FAF Annual Conference was that some folks sitting next to me the last night mentioned their family history, traced back to the Kellogg name and I had asked if they had ever seen the film. They said no, so I wrote out the title and leading actor so they might see it.

Sorry if anything in the clip was offensive to anyone. This clip was just so very funny I couldn't help myself from sharing it.
Nowisee
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 9:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The "hydro" therapy I saw going on at the conference involved the tears of joy at the assurance of our salvation, especially during the songs of praise before the Lord's supper and then on finding out many of you were joining us, over the internet, as we all celebrated what Jesus did for us at the cross!

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