| Author | Message | ||
| Nowisee Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 934 Registered: 5-2009 |
"If the Reformation churches had followed to a conclusion the work of restoring the gospel to its apostolic purity and had accepted the responsibility of heralding the three angels' messages when these messages were due, and had brought their teachings and practices into complete harmony with the scriptures, the forming of a new church, the Seventh-day Adventist Church, would not have been necessary. But when these churches failed to follow on in the work of reform, especially when, according to the prophecies, specific reforms were due, it became necessary for God to work through an organization that was willing to go all the way. It is in these considerations that the Seventh-day Adventist Church finds the reasons for its existence. The Seventh-day Adventist Church accepts its role humbly." | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 842 Registered: 8-2008 |
Yeah, sounds really humble to me......Not. | ||
| Thegoldenway Registered user Username: Thegoldenway Post Number: 100 Registered: 5-2011 |
oh my goodness! LOL! they are so arrogantly humble and the reformation that they brought about was a reformation of confusion...... Babylon?.....hummmm........come out of her My people! | ||
| Rossbondreturns Registered user Username: Rossbondreturns Post Number: 236 Registered: 10-2009  |
Well it's humble according to...their definition of the word I'm sure. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 12900 Registered: 12-2003  |
Nowisee, where was that quote from? The word "humble" just sounds so...so...WRONG. Colleen | ||
| Nowisee Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 935 Registered: 5-2009 |
An undated old Review--a "Friendsip Issue", I believe. I have the hard copy. | ||
| Jrt Registered user Username: Jrt Post Number: 1187 Registered: 10-2008 |
I echo the others ... Thanks for sharing this with us! jrt | ||
| Psalm107v2 Registered user Username: Psalm107v2 Post Number: 835 Registered: 10-2008  |
I seem to have numerous memories of SDAs saying that it is THE Original church and that the messages of the SDA church have only been kept by a few over the years. The idea that the SDA church came into existence because the reformation "didn't go far enough" is in contradiction to those who would say that they are "the Church/the original church" that Christ left on earth. My my--no wonder SDA rhetoric can be hard to pinpointfor every brand of SDA there is a quote to support their line of thinking | ||
| Mjcmcook Registered user Username: Mjcmcook Post Number: 118 Registered: 2-2011 |
~Thank-you for sharing, Nowisee~ As I recall 'egw' every chance she got would "feign" humility as it pertained to herself~ as in not desiring to be called a 'prophet' by the people, but only God's 'messenger'~somehow this would make her less culpable for the heresies she taught~? Then at other times she would bring out her Big Club of threatening eternal damnation to those who went against her 'testimonies'!Doesn't seem to be any 'humility' in that statement! Oh what a headache! Praise GOD I have been released by His Grace from this mess~!I hope anyone reading this has been been released also~ ~*~mj~*~ | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 933 Registered: 1-2003  |
Who is the author of the quote you posted? | ||
| Jdpascal Registered user Username: Jdpascal Post Number: 289 Registered: 10-2003 |
Nowisee -- look in the magazine pages for the publishers column. Most magazines have that to tell the particulars of the organization and publication. I'm sure that Proclamation! has that as well... It should give a date of publication if it isn't on the front page. | ||
| Nowisee Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 936 Registered: 5-2009 |
OK, yeah I should've included the author! Seekr, it's Don F. Neufeld. It is OLD, I finally found where they put the publishing info--it was 1971. A friend gave us a box of old SDA stuff--even has some creepy old "Amazing Facts" booklets in it. As I studied the artwork on the covers, I thought, "No wonder I grew up so frightened! One cover has a black tornado approaching a family home with a father running away with his little girl in his arms, one has a guy mugging an elderly lady, one has a guy driving his car with a huge radar behind him. He is frightened and sweating bullets. Last but not least is the red-orange cover with a huge satan with goatee, horns and pointed ears. He is gleefully looking down at 7 humans on fire in his out-stetched hands. (Caption on this is: "Is the devil in charge of hell?" and "Can he be trusted to be impartial?" (Uh, duh, he's the devil--why ask the last stupid question?) If anyone wants these AF for research, let me know... | ||
| Jdpascal Registered user Username: Jdpascal Post Number: 290 Registered: 10-2003 |
It is statements like this that should be scanned, turned into PDF's and posted on a website like 'truth or fables' or FAF..... | ||
| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 478 Registered: 1-2007  |
<cough> <cough> Bullshhh.... <cough> <cough> | ||
| Jdpascal Registered user Username: Jdpascal Post Number: 292 Registered: 10-2003 |
If you can find a 'volume number' and a 'issue number' it might be found as a PDF in the SDA archives here.... http://www.adventistarchives.org/documents.asp?CatID=27&SortBy=1&ShowDateOrder=True&offset=6000 | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 3788 Registered: 10-2004  |
Here is the issue with Neufeld's article--it is entitled "A Church With a Divine Commission" and begins on page 3: http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH19710429-V148-17__B.pdf#view=fit Jeremy | ||
| Jdpascal Registered user Username: Jdpascal Post Number: 293 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thanks Jeremy.. | ||
| Nowisee Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 938 Registered: 5-2009 |
Wow, Jeremy! Great job! | ||
| Butterfly_poette Registered user Username: Butterfly_poette Post Number: 63 Registered: 5-2011 |
So why did it have to take so long for the "one true church" to appear? Some individuals that sacrificed so much for God's cause didn't do good enough? Martin Luther, Jan Hus, etc. did so much for God. Adventists are so arrogant. |
