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| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1891 Registered: 7-2007 |
Christianity teaches that salvation is a free gift (Romans 5:15). All the religions - whether Roman Catholic, Mormon, Seventh-day Adventist or Muslim; teach do, do, do and don't, don't, don't, in order to be saved. (Some Adventists feel that all they need to do to maintain salvation, is just to make sure that they keep trying and asking forgiveness. But if they feel that even maintaining it is up to them, then they haven't accepted it!) No wonder that none of those people can truthfully say that they are saved! (I remember once telling someone in response to his question, that yes, I was saved; just to get him to think that Adventists are Christian, but I felt guilty about it afterward.) Christianity teaches DONE! If future sins weren't forgiven to believers, John couldn't have written 1st John 2:12 where it says to believers; your sins are forgiven. If ALL sins weren't forgiven, the Bible couldn't say you may KNOW you have eternal life in 1st John 5:13. It wouldn't say in Ephesians 2:8-9, 2nd Timothy 1:9 and Titus 3:5, that a believer HAS BEEN SAVED, if it wasn't so. Yet, Ellen White says that no one should say or believe that they are saved. Dianne (Message edited by Asurprise on May 09, 2011) | ||
| Animal Registered user Username: Animal Post Number: 925 Registered: 7-2008  |
Those who accept the Saviour, however sincere their conversion, should never be taught to say or to feel that they are saved. This is misleading. (Christ Object Lessons, page 155) As long as man is full of weakness–for of himself he cannot save his soul–he should never dare to say, "I am saved." (Selected Messages, vol 1, page 314) A moment of silence please..... OK..now yo may laff...lol lol ....Animal | ||
| Jonvil Registered user Username: Jonvil Post Number: 559 Registered: 4-2007 |
I knew this would happen, now your quoting Ellen. (Where is that moderator?) | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1764 Registered: 3-2009 |
Hey, hey, keep that moderator away yet. EGW preaches the correct gospel. Look at this from Steps to Christ chapter 7:
At this point I like to ask the SDA, Are you keeping the law perfectly? Most of the time if not all, the answer is, "I'm trying." To what I reply, "She doesn't say the condition is to try, she says the condition is to perfectly keep the law, Are you keeping it perfectly? Am I? Do you know of anyone who, SDA or not, is keeping it perfectly? At this point they try to change the subject or bring another verse/quote to their support. I just keep clarifying that statement from their won prophet. Now we keep reading the quote, Its coming from her mouth that we cannot perfectly obey the holy law So what now? She says that the requirement is to perfectly obey the law, now she says that we cannot perfectly obey the holy law. So we are lost unless we finish the quote So we are justified. Do we now go on sinning? NO, there is more: I have found going over this quote at least makes some SDA think. Of course, the mouth speaks of the abundance of the heart. She couldn't keep it totally straight and had to include some works,like, "...You are to maintain this connection with Christ by faith and the continual surrender of your will to Him; and so long as you do this,... If only all she says would be like this! There comes the danger, because in many other places she says exactly the opposite. OK moderator. All yours Hec |
