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River
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Username: River
Post Number: 6535
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 5:43 pm: |     |
Oh, so thats what all the fuss is about Haystacks, I am relieved that yall ain't gone down to the barn to eat with the horses out of sheer desperation.
I call a Taco Salad, a Taco Salad, when Phil came down, we went out to eat, and he ordered one, that thing was big as his old hat.
He didn't scrape the beef off though, least I don't think there was a dog under our table.
River |
Joyfulheart
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Username: Joyfulheart
Post Number: 765
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 6:30 pm: | |
Actually, River, there is a definite art to making a true Adventist haystack. At least from my church there was. You take chips (the round restaurant kind) and crush them gently but firmly on your plate with the heel of your hand. You then cover them with beans, fake ground beef (optional), lettuce, tomatoes, olives, soy cheese (Ellen said the real stuff shouldn't enter the stomach) and salsa.
It was my favorite planned potluck meal. The only thing was I needed water with it. We could have water a half hour before or an hour after, but never during a haystack meal. There was something Ellen said about food fermenting in the stomach if you drink water during a haystack meal. I wasn't in the church long enough to understand that one... There were however cheese cakes, brownies and cookies to indulge in. We just couldn't have anything to drink. |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 3336
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 6:37 pm: | |
Joyfulheart,
Would that be soy cheese cake? 
Jeremy |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 3337
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 6:41 pm: | |
River,
I bet you didn't know that they made milk and cheese out of soybeans, also? 
Jeremy |
Philharris
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Username: Philharris
Post Number: 2236
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 6:43 pm: | |
Haystacks are for horses and those who……..:
As River implied, I know what a taco salad is. Actually, if I remember right, what River said I ate was a tostada, there being a foundation of a nice crispy tortilla under the works. In any case, it wasn’t a haystack.
At the last Harris reunion my SDA cousins tried to get me to eat something they referred to as a haystack. All it were was spaghetti with some unidentified things up on top and without the sauce. Not being a cow and not really wanting to eat hay, I pasted on their kind offer.
Strangely, they wanted us all to eat all our meals together, but I knew better than to put on the coffee and break out a slab of bacon. Well, being a little smarter than the average vegetarian bear, I didn’t fall their haystack offer either.
So, don’t any of you folks try and trick me. Hay is for horses. As for me, pass the tostada and make sure there is plenty of jack cheese, shredded beef simmered in red sauce and jalapenos top with slices of avocado and all suspended over a bed of real lettuce.
Fearless Phil |
River
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Username: River
Post Number: 6536
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 7:04 pm: | |
Now I'm going to have to check those individual cheese slices my wife buys, to see if it is in fact, cheese, and not plastic.
Tostada, tomados, what the difference? But it did look pretty good Phil.
What are you going to feed me when I come up? I'm looking forward to a good home cooked meal, just as long as it don't graze off the ocean bottom.
No clams, crabs, or anything slimy shall pass my sainted lips.
And nothing Hooch drags up, so don't go outside and say, "Here Hooch! Rivers coming. Hunt!
River |
Angelcat
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Username: Angelcat
Post Number: 197
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 7:06 pm: | |
A REAL haystack HAS to have corn chips, refried beans, tomato, lettuse,olives, sour cream and REAL cheese. Mushrooms, avacado, and ground beef are all nice additions. Oh, and salsa, if ya like.
The beans MUST be refried beans. Anything else is just wrong. |
Philharris
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Username: Philharris
Post Number: 2237
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 7:45 pm: | |
Wow,
Real refried bean? Fried with lard?
PS
Angelcat, what you described is 'nachos' to me.
Fearless Phil |
Sabbatismos
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Username: Sabbatismos
Post Number: 27
Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 7:47 pm: | |
I love haystacks, too. I often like them with rice over the beans. I've never had a haystack with veggie burger, though, only beans. I have to have black olives, and sometimes I have green pepper,too. I always love tons of lettuce and tomatoes, and it becomes a massive mound---guess that's why it got the name "haystack," huh?
Has anyone ever had "Sam's Chicken"? I think the recipe was devised by a long-time cook at Andrews University maybe. He was of Asian decent, although I don't remember his last name. I first had it when we were at Indiana Academy and the cafeteria made it for special occasions. Everyone raved about it. You would thaw and rip into pieces the little 1 lb Chic-ettes rolls. Then these pieces were supposed to be soaked (overnight, preferrably) in buttermilk, battered and deep-fried to golden-brown perfection. Usually served with tartar sauce. I've never made them myself, but I knew an SDA lady who had a fry daddy deep frier just to make Sam's Chicken. |
Hec
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Username: Hec
Post Number: 1265
Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 8:30 pm: | |
As you can see, haystack is a catch all name for whatever you have in the fridge. But the descriptions given here give you a good idea of what it is. In my description, I forgot the corn chips (which should be "Fritos".
Any one know where the name of haystack comes from? I think it came from the fact that what made them popular were the Pathfinders camp-out. The were standard in those camp-outs due to the easiness of making them. Just heat up some chili beans, preferable the type with veggie meat in them, serve then on a bed of Frito's and cut some lettuce and tomatoes, open up a jar of salsa and a bag of shredded cheese, and voilá, you have pathfinders haystacks.
Hec |
Joyfulheart
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Username: Joyfulheart
Post Number: 766
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 8:42 pm: | |
Hey Jeremy, I don't think it was soy cheesecake, but we did have soy ice cream. I think it was called tofutti or something like that.
Back to the beans, I remember one elder up front telling everyone that the beans at Taco Bell were okay now because it was determined that they weren't made with lard. It was a happy day!I can't ever remember having a haystack with refried beans, but really like them. I missed out.
I also remember an announcement about oreos being okay - although still not the healthiest choice because they no longer have trans fat - saturated fat or something like that. That was a big deal, too. I went out an bought a box of double stuffed oreos to celebrate - even though I hadn't been in the church very long.
Ahhhh...I love the food threads! |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 3339
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 8:58 pm: | |
Joyfulheart,
Haha, there's just something about the food threads that always makes them have the most posts!
This is post #112 on this thread! LOL.
I will admit that there was a certain kind of Tofutti brand "ice cream" that I loved, and that was something called "Too Toos" (I think). They were soy "ice cream" sandwiches made with two large chocolate chip cookies. They actually tasted as good as ice cream (well, I thought so at the time, at least!). We used to buy them at Trader Joes. Strangely enough, the SDAs always seemed to sell real ice cream (such as at camp meeting, even though EGW specifically forbade it!), and not soy ice cream!
Jeremy
(Message edited by jeremy on August 14, 2010) |
Cloudwatcher
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Username: Cloudwatcher
Post Number: 151
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2010 - 9:15 pm: | |
I like haystacks but I REFUSE to call them haystacks anymore. It's a Taco Salad.
I don't have a taste for veggie meat anymore and sometimes it even makes me physically ill too. It just doesn't sit right anymore. I'm sure it's psychological...
My best friend (she's a never-been) would always ask me... if you think eating pork is wrong, then why do you eat things that look like bacon and are supposed to taste like bacon? Why pretend to eat something you think is wrong? I guess the same goes for doing toasts with Martinellis. |
Nowisee
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Username: Nowisee
Post Number: 479
Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 1:00 am: | |
Jeremy, I always got a kick out of strict vegetarians eating Worcestshire sauce full of little anchovies!
The corn dog dip that we made was mayo, finely chopped dill pickles and onion and tumeric, to taste. Just mix--it's actually good. I think the yellow tumeric was probably a mustard substitute, but it's a yummy spice.
My mom was a good cook, but my worst sda food memory (she must have had a lapse) was Proteena slices topped with stewed tomatoes. The texture of that was awful, to my taste. There was nothing to chew, it just kind of slithered down your throat! My apologies to all the PL's (Proteena lovers) on the forum. |
Surfy
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Username: Surfy
Post Number: 675
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 8:28 am: | |
HAYSTACKS HAVE TO BE MADE WITH FRITOS!
NOT any old corn chip. Not the store brand "Fritos" NOT tortilla chips broken up, either.
You people have been out of adventism way too long.
Surfy |
Joyfulheart
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Username: Joyfulheart
Post Number: 769
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 9:50 am: | |
I so missed out! Fritos are my favorite - but I was told my my SDA church that they were among the most unhealthy chips out there. They were therefore not acceptable for haystacks. We always had the round restaurant kind. I have no complaints - they were good, but would have loved to have fritos. I'll have to try a haystack that way now. Thanks for enlightening me, Surfy. |
Skeeter
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Username: Skeeter
Post Number: 915
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 10:50 am: | |
I never called them Haystacks even as a SDA.. We called them "Frito boats"
put a generous serving of fritos on a plate or wide bowl, and top with (vegetarian) refried beans.. sometimes we used just regular pinto beans that werent mashed up... then put on ground beef (for those who wanted it), lots of shredded (real)cheese, lettuce, tomato, black olives, salsa, (and had to have ketchup on mine)
Hmmm. guess I wasnt a very good SDA cause I always used real cheese,and real ground beef.
I figured if it wasn't on the "unclean" list.. it was ok to use it.:-)
Speaking of dessert foods (ya were, right? LOL)
I remember for potlucks I would sometimes make a "dump cake" that everyone really liked.
Francie |
Angelcat
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Username: Angelcat
Post Number: 201
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 11:07 am: | |
I forgot one extremely important point: haystacks MUST be made with iceberg lettuce. Any other kind will just wilt with the heat from the refried beans, and sad, wilty lettuce can ruin the whole experience! |
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