| Author | Message | ||
| Clintonc Registered user Username: Clintonc Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2007  |
Hey everybody! I haven't dropped in here for some time. Lots of changes going on with life, but that always seems to be case, at least for me! Anyways, I got this strange email today from AdventistReality.com. It was a survey on why former Adventists are leaving the church. So, I answered honestly on why I left. Of course, the survey is skewed in such a way that it is implying that most people leave for reasons other than doctrines and teachings. Apparently it is being run by a church in Collegedale, TN, which of course is headquarters for Southern Adv. Univ. The link is http://www.adventistreality.com/ Did anybody else receive this survey too? I wonder how they found me? | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 880 Registered: 1-2003  |
Yes I received it as well. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 8203 Registered: 3-2004  |
I went to the link and got a message that I have already taken the survey. I do not remember doing it. Ohhh, well!!!!! Diana L | ||
| Jdpascal Registered user Username: Jdpascal Post Number: 215 Registered: 10-2003 |
I tried the link from the faf facebook page and got a 'taken it already' message as well.... The only survey like this that I can remmeber taking is one that the Spokane churchs sponsored last year. Maybe it is the same and they have retained participant records in some way..... I know a few of the FAF posters from here did fill out that one. Might have guessed that the questions would be skewed. | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 656 Registered: 5-2002 |
I got the same error message but do not recall completing any such survey. I would have expected something like: Q: Why did you leave the Seventh-day Adventist Church? (Select all that apply) A. I did not really understand Adventism. B. I want to go out and sin. C. I want to eat bacon, drink beer, smoke cigars, and drink coffee. D. I am bitter. E. I want to do whatever I want with the 10% of my income and 1/7th of my time that really belongs to God. F. I want to give my allegiance to the Pope. G. All of the above. | ||
| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 364 Registered: 1-2007  |
My answer... G. ;) | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 2131 Registered: 5-2007  |
Well, I logged on, attempted to take the survey and recieved the same message. So, I went to their church website, found their email address and sent them a pitty message. Time will tell if they bother to respond to me. Fearless Phil | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1046 Registered: 3-2009 |
There has to be something bogus about this survey. I have never, ever taken any survey related to SDA, except the ones they do in their schools when I worked for them. When I tried to take this survey, I also received the message, "We're sorry. You have already taken this survey." | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1993 Registered: 4-2000  |
I found it interesting in regard to their website claiming that "some experts estimate that half of all Seventh-day Adventist churches will close in less than 15 years." I also received the message that I had already taken the survey. Moreover, I found the website deceptive in several ways (i.e., claiming to be a Protestant church stemming from the Protestant Reformation, renaming the Collegedale SDA Church as "Collegedale Community Church," etc.). This reminds me of the Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints now calling themselves the "Community of Christ." All in all, their hiring a public relations firm to do surveys for them denotes desperation. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 2132 Registered: 5-2007 |
Around here, the closest SDA church is about the size of a latte stand. I keep getting the urge to stop in and order a 'blended mocha'. They were renting larger facilities but clearly have 'down sized'. Fearless Phil | ||
| Yenc Registered user Username: Yenc Post Number: 56 Registered: 6-2008 |
I've never even heard of this survey, and they do have my current address, as I sent my letter requesting to be dropped from the rolls in the past year. Maybe they are not all that interested in the real reasons we have left--or maybe they got tired of reading the responses: "It's based on a pack of bald-faced lies"; "EGW was a fraud"; "Heresy is not my cup of (caffeinated) tea"; "KFC beat rubbery fake 'mystery meat' in my personal taste test"; "Legalism is as worthless as a $3 bill"; "; "I got tired of trying to work my way to heaven"; "I peeked and found the smoke and mirrors"; "One day a week is not as good as resting in Jesus 24/7". | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 754 Registered: 12-2007 |
I wonder if I can take it since I havent sent in my resignation letter yet.... I will go try. | ||
| Skeeter Registered user Username: Skeeter Post Number: 755 Registered: 12-2007 |
I got the same message and I know I have not taken it. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 6258 Registered: 9-2006  |
I got the same message and I'm a never been. I'll bet they have every name on this forum. They probably broke into Richards server, or they have identified the link as coming form his server. River | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 3240 Registered: 10-2004  |
Nope, I only tried it through Google just now, and it says I already took it. Hmmm. Jeremy | ||
| Surfy Registered user Username: Surfy Post Number: 661 Registered: 11-2007 |
Seen one ex-adventist...seen them all. They have no desire for us to really fill out a questionaire. They have no problem making things up anyway. Surfy | ||
| Jdpascal Registered user Username: Jdpascal Post Number: 216 Registered: 10-2003 |
message from the admin at the Sabbatismos facebook page....
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| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1265 Registered: 7-2007 |
If the survey is honest, they would let people put down the Bible reasons why they left the SDA church. I doubt they'd do that, so the questions are probably true/false and multiple choice. There's no way they'd allow "essay answers." It's like when I call my Adventist mother. She absolutely refuses to look up anything in the Bible. Once I begged one of my sisters to let me read something out of the Bible and she held the phone away from her ear and got really angry with me about trying to read it. Some demonic spirit is suggesting to them that if they get out of their row of "proof texts" (taken out of context) and allow someone else to show them something from the Bible, they'll get "confused." | ||
| Jonvil Registered user Username: Jonvil Post Number: 380 Registered: 4-2007 |
From the Remnant Dictionary IN CONTEXT: The Remnant Church started with doctrinal truths and, through the inspiration of the SoP, found texts and phrases that support these truths therefore the Remnant Doctrines are to be studied and verified only in the context of their original setting i.e., the writings of the Spirit of Prophecy (SoP). Through Her interpretations and use of isolated verses and phrases, hidden truths unrelated to the original circumstances of the text have been brought to light, creating a framework that support our distinctives. By studying Her writings in context, it will be shown that most verses cannot be taken literally and/or in context of the scripture, as such use creates confusion to the understanding of their true meanings and leads to our Doctrines being questioned. Bear in mind that the important thing is not learning what scripture seems to say, the key is determining what the SoP is speaking to you in your unique personal circumstances. The ‘in context’ of scripture is used as a ploy by those who also tout literalism and Sola Scriptura as the sole means to revealing God’s truth in an attempt to undermine the Remnant Truth. Without the proper interpretation by the Spirit of Prophecy, scripture cannot be understood or trusted: I am instructed to say ... we are not to receive the words of those (formers) who come with a message (scripture) that contradicts the special points (Sabbath, 1844, IJ… - our distinctives) of our faith. They (formers) gather together a mass of Scripture (taken literally and in context), and pile it as proof around their asserted (Sola Scriptura) theories. This has been done over and over again during the past fifty years. And while (some of) the Scriptures (are inspired and) are God's word (many are just the personal opinions of the writers, mainly Paul, and are to be disregarded), and are to be respected (but not taken literally), ignore) the application of them, if such application moves (contradicts the Spirit of Prophecy) one pillar (Sabbath, 1844, IJ… - our distinctives) from the foundation that God (the Spirit of Prophecy) has sustained these fifty years, is a great mistake (to study Sola Scriptura). He (formers) who makes such an application knows not the wonderful demonstration of the Holy Spirit (the writings of the Spirit of Prophecy) that gave power and force to the past messages that have come (by more than just a Prophet) to the (chosen) people of God (the Remnant Church).--Letter 329, 1905 (Selected Messages, Vol 1, page 160-161). (see: SPIRIT of PROPHECY, SPIRITURALGESES, TEXTS, VEIL, ‘WHITE, ELLEN’, WHITE LIGHT) | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 2137 Registered: 5-2007 |
Well, I logged on again, just now, and it let me take the survey. So, I did it. And, I asked for feed back. But, where it asked if I would consider attending an SDA church...I responded negatively. Fearless Phil |
